Does Collectors Have Potential Conflicts?

drcy · #1 06-22-2022, 01:13 PM

There should be an at least informal advisory independent hobby oversight group about grading, authentication, auction ethics, etc. Maybe it could be done through SABR.

However, as everyone knows, the hobby is full of conflicts of interest, etc.

BobC · #2 06-22-2022, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by drcy

There should be an at least informal advisory independent hobby oversight group about grading, authentication, auction ethics, etc. Maybe it could be done through SABR.

However, as everyone knows, the hobby is full of conflicts of interest, etc.

SABR is about history and research, not necessarily collecting cards. It is also strictly baseball oriented, whereas TPGs grade cards from all sports, and beyond, such as Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, etc. As I noted earlier, with so many different factions and groups into collecting and grading, it will be virtually impossible to find a group/venue with which to unite them all. The perfect time to have set up such a group may have passed back in Burdick's time. He would have been the perfect person to establish and head up a true collector's organization/club that could set standards, and have current TPGs possibly toeing the line or face ostracizing and loss of business from members who would not use their services if the collecting club/organization did not approve.

Unfortunately, too many people/businesses have too much time, effort, and especially money, tied up into graded cards of existing TPGs to probably ever allow such a new group to threaten the current status quo. It may take a catastrophic scandal, or other unbelievable and unforeseen development, to rock the card collecting hobby enough to where such significant changes would ever have a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding and improving the TPG industry from where it currently sits, unfettered, uncontrolled, and answering to no one but itself.

drcy · #3 06-22-2022, 02:26 PM

I picked SABR because it is a well-known and respected organization that knows how to make committees.

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Originally Posted by BobC

SABR is about history and research, not necessarily collecting cards. It is also strictly baseball oriented, whereas TPGs grade cards from all sports, and beyond, such as Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, etc. As I noted earlier, with so many different factions and groups into collecting and grading, it will be virtually impossible to find a group/venue with which to unite them all. The perfect time to have set up such a group may have passed back in Burdick's time. He would have been the perfect person to establish and head up a true collector's organization/club that could set standards, and have current TPGs possibly toeing the line or face ostracizing and loss of business from members who would not use their services if the collecting club/organization did not approve.

Unfortunately, too many people/businesses have too much time, effort, and especially money, tied up into graded cards of existing TPGs to probably ever allow such a new group to threaten the current status quo. It may take a catastrophic scandal, or other unbelievable and unforeseen development, to rock the card collecting hobby enough to where such significant changes would ever have a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding and improving the TPG industry from where it currently sits, unfettered, uncontrolled, and answering to no one but itself.

BobC · #4 06-22-2022, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by drcy

I picked SABR because it is a well-known and respected organization that knows how to make committees.

David,

Agree with you 100%, but the trick is getting Pokemon and other such collectors to buy in. Because of all the different collecting factions, we might have better luck with a new organization encompassing ALL the different types of collectors out there. And have that new organization then approach groups like SABR for their support and endorsement. Using SABR will likely make a lot of people think it is primarily a baseball card-centric issue/focus, which is certainly not what you would want.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 06-22-2022, 03:00 PM

SGC grades cards for its owner and employees, no?

parkplace33 · #6 06-22-2022, 04:18 PM

I really don�t think you need to worry about it. If history repeats itself, Mr. Turner will sell the company in 2-3 years.

Tabe · #7 06-22-2022, 05:10 PM

Does Nat Turner and/or Collectors have conflicts of interest? Yes. No qualifiers needed - they do.

And the fact that he didn't immediately announce a series of policies after buying PSA and the auction companies to eliminate those conflicts tells you he doesn't care. And that there's a very high probability the conflicts will be exploited.

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