How to put cash value on cards

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

The last one PSA has listed for sale at auction sold for $25.00 was a PSA 5 grade. Doesn’t list the year sold. I think one sold on ebay same grade might have been the same card have no way to tell because it's gone from ebay sold too long ago to find but, it went for $149.00. I didn't see it listed before it sold or I would have gladly bought it.

Here's a scan of the one that sold on Ebay for $149 in Jan 2021. If you look through cardtarget.com even though it is no longer active there are a number that have sold (mostly raw) over the years. Most were under $50. The one in Jan 2021 is the highest by a good margin. Even the SGC 84/7 that sold in 2015 only sold for $125.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Here's a scan of the one that sold on Ebay for $149 in Jan 2021. If you look through cardtarget.com even though it is no longer active there are a number that have sold (mostly raw) over the years. Most were under $50. The one in Jan 2021 is the highest by a good margin. Even the SGC 84/7 that sold in 2015 only sold for $125.

Thanks a million for this info. I just offered 200 and no dice. I think I will just let one come to me.

[UKCardGuy]

Another way to assess the potential current value is to use other comparable cards from the same set. If there are other similarly hard to find cards from the same set then you have data from those salws too.

I tend to compare the sales history of similar cards and then make an adjustment foe geneeal cards price changes since those sales.

Its not perfect and It doesn't completely solve your problem because the seller might not agree with your logic. But for me it helps me to assess what i think a fair price is.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Another way to assess the potential current value is to use other comparable cards from the same set. If there are other similarly hard to find cards from the same set then you have data from those salws too.

I tend to compare the sales history of similar cards and then make an adjustment foe geneeal cards price changes since those sales.

Its not perfect and It doesn't completely solve your problem because the seller might not agree with your logic. But for me it helps me to assess what i think a fair price is.

Yep I tried to look at that somewhat as well. I offered him 200 said no dice they're in high demand and he wouldn't even take 250 if I offered that. Said they're in higher demand then a lesser pop Williards chocolate v100 I just bought for less with a higher grade. It sucks, but sometimes I guess you just have to pass.

[Vintage Vern]

Would anyone here pay more than $200 for a PSA 4 Vern Clemons E120? I think he wants 275 to 300. He has it listed much higher than others he has listed with same grade for some reason. Has it set at 400.

[ullmandds]

Sometimes if you want a rare card… A card with very few comps, but rarely comes up for sale.… You just have to bend over and take it like a man!!!

[jamest206]

Or get very lucky on the price! I am pretty sure I overpaid for a T206 Lundgren, but at the same time snagged a T206 Demmitt St. Louis that will grade at a 2 for 4k, when I hesitated on here for one at 6200. Timing and patience!

[RL]

I had to overpay a few times, but still did not feel like I got hosed.

Currently I am looking for a card that has several easily available, but way overpriced. For that card, every time I see it relisted, I contact the seller and let them know what I would offer a fair price since it did not sell.

They usually do not reply, or reply saying they already have more than that into the card.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Would anyone here pay more than $200 for a PSA 4 Vern Clemons E120? I think he wants 275 to 300. He has it listed much higher than others he has listed with same grade for some reason. Has it set at 400.

If it was a somewhat rare card I wanted for my collection I would and have overpaid. I wouldn't let 100-150 bucks over dissuade me. If you don't get it and can't find one for the next 2-3 years you'll think about it everyday on how close you came to getting one.

[RCMcKenzie]

I would say it would sell for about $100, maybe less, at auction. Clemons is a common e120. PSA 4 is not high grade for this set. You can search "e120 PSA 4" on eBay past sales and at auction sites, throw out the Hooper and Wheat prices, the star cards.

The eBay sellers that list cards at high prices are waiting for a buyer that wants it right now. It's like me going to the airport today, and buying a first class ticket to NYC. It's going to cost a lot more than planning ahead, and waiting.

I see 27 graded Clemons on sgc and psa pops combined. There are probably another 40 to 75 low grade raw ones in the wild.



I would wait, but I have overpaid before.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I would say it would sell for about $100, maybe less, at auction. Clemons is a common e120. PSA 4 is not high grade for this set. You can search "e120 PSA 4" on eBay past sales and at auction sites, throw out the Hooper and Wheat prices, the star cards.

The eBay sellers that list cards at high prices are waiting for a buyer that wants it right now. It's like me going to the airport today, and buying a first class ticket to NYC. It's going to cost a lot more than planning ahead, and waiting.

I see 27 graded Clemons on sgc and psa pops combined. There are probably another 40 to 75 low grade raw ones in the wild.



I would wait, but I have overpaid before.

This is how I view it as well. I looked at other commons that have the same pop, and selling price. This is above most others in the same company for price. When people say they over paid is it double the price it should be selling at?

[bnorth]

I own a lot of extremely rare cards/items. For me they are usually priced way cheaper than I would pay or way more than I want to. If I really want it I overpay and justify it to myself by remembering all the things I got super cheap.

[oldjudge]

I believe that unless they know otherwise, PSA values all non-star cards the same. Their job isn’t to know rarity, their job is to grade cards. If the card is truely rare then, as many others have said, pay what the card is worth to you and forget the guide. I have been collecting for the last 30+ years and the next time I refer to a PSA price guide will also be the first time I have ever referred to a PSA price guide.

[Vintage Vern]

Well basically he's stating the demand has changed since January 2022 when he sold his last PSA 4 Clemons card for $175.00 haven't verified that yet, but even if he did I doubt it gained that much value from 6 months ago. I'm going to dig to see if I can find the cert number. He may be selling the same one he claimed he got $175.00 for. I know he had them because at that time he had them priced high as well. I missed the PSA5 for $149.00 , and offered him $125 he had the 4 listed for $240 then dropes it to $200 and he declined my offer. I'm trying to justify it, but just can't even though I want the card. If it had the highest grade which is a 5 it would help. Being it's not even the top grade it makes it harder to justify. If a 5 just sold for $400 it would be different. He's a good guy, and has lots of nice stuff yepbg is his ebay name.