How to put cash value on cards

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

yepbg is his ebay name.

Yepbg is notorious on this site. He has been mentioned many times over the years here. He ranks up there with Deans as an eBay seller who completely overvalues his stuff.

I have dealt with Yepbg. About 4 years ago I paid way up for an e105 Wagner throwing that I needed. I think the value in 2022 has finally caught up to what I paid! But he had the card and I needed it, so I bought it. The card came on time and as described. I am almost positive I did another deal with him where I made a strong offer below his ask but above FMV and he accepted. He certainly has some nice and rare stuff and aside from price, I have had nothing but solid experiences. But he certainly prices high and he does not move much.

It all comes down to how badly do you want the card, now. Because another will 100% come up in the next 1-2 years (and Yepbg may compete against you to buy it!)

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Yepbg is notorious on this site. He has been mentioned many times over the years here. He ranks up there with Deans as an eBay seller who completely overvalues his stuff.

I have dealt with Yepbg. About 4 years ago I paid way up for an e105 Wagner throwing that I needed. I think the value in 2022 has finally caught up to what I paid! But he had the card and I needed it, so I bought it. The card came on time and as described. I am almost positive I did another deal with him where I made a strong offer below his ask but above FMV and he accepted. He certainly has some nice and rare stuff and aside from price, I have had nothing but solid experiences. But he certainly prices high and he does not move much.

It all comes down to how badly do you want the card, now. Because another will 100% come up in the next 1-2 years (and Yepbg may compete against you to buy it!)

this is spot on. if you have to have it...now...you have to pay up. this is what the hobby has become.

I was trying to complete my e97 nichols run...had been working on it for a few decades...I never could pull the trigger on the color phil variation because prices were crazy. Eventually I did...and then I got another a few months later for 1/2 the price.

I recently got my last dots miller to complete my run...and I paid up...because I was ready to be done and who knows when another will turn up.

[JLange]

If you have already made a reasonable offer and the seller has declined, your next best alternative is to wait it out, taking the rarity into consideration. With time, one of the following tends to occur:

1. You get more and better information over time that helps establish the price. If you come to realize that similiar items or other suitable comps when they finally do come up for sale will go for about the same higher price, you can go back and pay the seller’s number with confidence. If the opposite is true you can feel good about sticking the seller with an unsellable item (at their higher price)

2. The seller may grow tired of waiting to sell at the higher price and either offer to you eventually because you expressed interest or put the item up for auction to see what the market price really is, and you can win it at a lower price possibly

3. You find another copy of said item at a more reasonable price, and buy it!

I have learned to trust my own eyeballs, having looked at so many items up for sale or auction over the years. If I see something I haven’t seen before, I tend to buy it right away. The likelihood that ten more examples are around the corner is low, or else I would have seen it over the years. This is my personal gauge of rarity, largely based on the frequency with which items come up for sale. I recently bought a beat up PC of Bob Feller because the last one I saw available for sale was over 10 yrs ago. Of course I want a better copy but my experience tells me I might need to wait another 10 yrs 😀 to find it. Who wants to do that?

[EddieP]

Originally Posted by JLange

1. You get more and better information over time that helps establish the price. If you come to realize that similiar items or other suitable comps when they finally do come up for sale will go for about the same higher price, you can go back and pay the seller’s number with confidence. If the opposite is true you can feel good about sticking the seller with an unsellable item (at their higher price)

2. The seller may grow tired of waiting to sell at the higher price and either offer to you eventually because you expressed interest or put the item up for auction to see what the market price really is, and you can win it at a lower price possibly

3. You find another copy of said item at a more reasonable price, and buy it!

I’ve dealt with this seller before and this is what I found with him:

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes

He does not budge on his asking price. I think he uses the “Best Offer” option to gauge interest in his cards.

Oops, just read Rhotchkiss’ post…I agree with everything he says

[Exhibitman]

Seems to me that if you are asking the question you already know the answer...skip it and wait for the next one.

[Vintage Vern]

Well he sold it for $300. Or let's say he made it look like he sold it for $300. I find it hard to believe with all the others he sold for much less Vern Clemons sold for that much as a PSA 4. Dean's cards is also marking them up like this. It's amazing he sold a psa 4 like this in January of this year for $175, and now this went for $300.