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Old 07-11-2022, 01:45 PM
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It's useless for graded cards.
Don't they send them to PSA? The place that never makes a mistake and everyone working there is WAY smarter than us?
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Old 07-11-2022, 01:50 PM
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Don't they send them to PSA? The place that never makes a mistake and everyone working there is WAY smarter than us?
I would like to know how many tampered slabs they have identified to date. My guess is zero.
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+1 -- some reporting on how much fraud they have prevented would be terrific.

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I would like to know how many tampered slabs they have identified to date. My guess is zero.
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Old 07-11-2022, 04:30 PM
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+1 -- some reporting on how much fraud they have prevented would be terrific.
I have no idea on number but I know several resealed slabs listed on eBay have been called out on here including a T206 green Cobb. Even if they catch a few it is worth it because it also helps stop the listings in the first place if the scammers know the cards need to be inspected by an "expert".

Not cards but they have caught fake sneakers for me.
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Don't they send them to PSA? The place that never makes a mistake and everyone working there is WAY smarter than us?

They go to CSG, which does not know its A from its elbow. I just had THREE cards rejected as altered, when none were, and SGC graded them all with numerical grades. It is a nightmare for sellers. Fine for buyers, I guess, other than if cards get rejected them and they actually wanted them.
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They go to CSG, which does not know its A from its elbow. I just had THREE cards rejected as altered, when none were, and SGC graded them all with numerical grades. It is a nightmare for sellers. Fine for buyers, I guess, other than if cards get rejected them and they actually wanted them.
For some reason I thought raw cards went to CSG and graded went to PSA.
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For some reason I thought raw cards went to CSG and graded went to PSA.
This is exactly how it works.
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This is exactly how it works.
Does that mean that if I buy a PSA graded card on Ebay, it goes back to PSA for further evaluation with presumably PSA receiving compensation for their work? If so, this double dipping at its' best and irritation for the buyer.
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Does that mean that if I buy a PSA graded card on Ebay, it goes back to PSA for further evaluation with presumably PSA receiving compensation for their work? If so, this double dipping at its' best and irritation for the buyer.
Yes, if it's over the value threshold, any single graded card not sold by a couple specific sellers goes to PSA to authenticate the slab, but not the card inside. It seems to encompass CSG, SGC, Beckett and PSA slabs that PSA has to give an approval on, possibly more but the policy is really vague. The slab authentication double dip is the part I think is getting into comical territory.

Buy card. Get it slabbed. Put it in a sleeve to protect the slab. Have PSA validate the slab is real. Put an otter box case on the slab to further protect the slab. Get a purple sticker put on the slab.
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Yes, if it's over the value threshold, any single graded card not sold by a couple specific sellers goes to PSA to authenticate the slab, but not the card inside. It seems to encompass CSG, SGC, Beckett and PSA slabs that PSA has to give an approval on, possibly more but the policy is really vague. The slab authentication double dip is the part I think is getting into comical territory.

Buy card. Get it slabbed. Put it in a sleeve to protect the slab. Have PSA validate the slab is real. Put an otter box case on the slab to further protect the slab. Get a purple sticker put on the slab.
It is a significant contribution to the anti-fraud effort and a great thing for the hobby. Feel good about it!!
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