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[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SADA Fangio. Eddie, is it 56 or 58 do you know?

Awesome pickup, Peter. I don't get how undervalued Fangio cards are, considering he is one of the 3-4 drivers for whom a serious case can be made for being the best F1 driver of all time.

I believe the SADA card is from 1958, although I have seen it listed by eBay sellers as 1956. The information I found previously online about the card almost always listed the year as 1958.

https://www.cardsoflegends.com/colle...l-fangio-1958/

Here is a checklist from the entire set of SADA cards, and the checklist says 1958. That would make me think that is the correct year.

http://athleticards.com/c_girandola.html

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Awesome pickup, Peter. I don't get how undervalued Fangio cards are, considering he is one of the 3-4 drivers for whom a serious case can be made for being the best F1 driver of all time.

I believe the SADA card is from 1958, although I have seen it listed by eBay sellers as 1956. The information I found previously online about the card almost always listed the year as 1958.

https://www.cardsoflegends.com/colle...l-fangio-1958/

Here is a checklist from the entire set of SADA cards, and the checklist says 1958. That would make me think that is the correct year.

http://athleticards.com/c_girandola.html

Thanks. From the Marciano I always thought it was a 58 set. As for the other drivers in the conversation, are you thinking Clark Senna and Hamilton? Lots of views on the subject of course.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Thanks. From the Marciano I always thought it was a 58 set. As for the other drivers in the conversation, are you thinking Clark Senna and Hamilton? Lots of views on the subject of course.

I was actually thinking Schumacher more than Clark. I know Clark was killed at Hockenheim at age 32 and his win percentage is among the best of all time, but his early death robbed him of future wins/titles. Even with Clark's early death, I think it is hard to make a case for him being number one with 25 wins and two world titles when you look at how many wins and titles the other possibilities had.

Prost is usually ranked somewhere between third and fifth all-time on most lists, and I guess that is probably where he should be. But I was listening to Tom Clarkson's F1 "Beyond the Grid" podcast with Prost a few months back and Clarkson made a credible case for how Prost could have won 7-8 world titles.

Prost won four championships and finished second four other times. He lost the title by two points to Nelson Piquet in 1983, half a point to Niki Lauda in 1984, three points to Senna in 1988 and seven points to Senna in 1990 (thanks to the infamous Suzuka crash when he was taken out by Senna).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

I was actually thinking Schumacher more than Clark. I know Clark was killed at Hockenheim at age 32 and his win percentage is among the best of all time, but his early death robbed him of future wins/titles. Even with Clark's early death, I think it is hard to make a case for him being number one with 25 wins and two world titles when you look at how many wins and titles the other possibilities had.

Prost is usually ranked somewhere between third and fifth all-time on most lists, and I guess that is probably where he should be. But I was listening to Tom Clarkson's F1 "Beyond the Grid" podcast with Prost a few months back and Clarkson made a credible case for how Prost could have won 7-8 world titles.

Prost won four championships and finished second four other times. He lost the title by two points to Nelson Piquet in 1983, half a point to Niki Lauda in 1984, three points to Senna in 1988 and seven points to Senna in 1990 (thanks to the infamous Suzuka crash when he was taken out by Senna).

I have a Prost RC (hopefully) incoming; I recently had a UK package go missing on me.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have a Prost RC (hopefully) incoming; I recently had a UK package go missing on me.

I know Prost does not have the miraculous story of Lauda or the mythic aura of Senna, but he seems so undervalued compared to the explosion in prices for his contemporaries.

[carbking]

Just completed this NASCAR "Winners Circle Say No To Drugs" set after more than 30 years!

This set was extremely low-printed, and was tough in 1989. So tough that counterfeits came out about 1991.

As the counterfeits are very deceptive, I was concerned until the Fred Lorenzen card arrived, but it is genuine.

So another set finished.

Jon

[Peter_Spaeth]

The buying phase continues with Lewis Hamilton. Normally I would buy a "rookie" card or something as early in time as possible, but the 2006 Futuera is out of the question, I really don't care for the 2009 SI for Kids card showing his car and even less for the Top Trumps, and there wasn't anything in between, so I ended up with his first Topps card. Why someone sent this to Mike Baker is beyond me.

[Bored5000]

Nice Topps Now Hamilton pickup, Peter. That card really cooled off once Topps Chrome F1 came out, but I think that Hamilton card can be a winner long term financially because of the small print run. I do agree with you that the Top Trumps and SIFK Hamilton cards do nothing for me, either. I do like his two card No. 1 images on the 2020 Topps Chrome cards; he looks like such a bad ass in each image.