What's up with Mike Trout?

clydepepper · #1 07-15-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68

He is probably in I agree but he will never be a Great/Legendary HOFer if he does not get to the playoffs and does something there.

He is hidden in plain sight on a bad team and that will prevent him from becoming truly Legendary

Ernie Banks?

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packs · #2 07-15-2022, 11:46 AM

Miguel Cabrera has 500 home runs, 3,000 hits, won a triple crown and 4 batting titles. He played for a World Series championship team as a rookie and hit 167 in the series.

He is one of the greatest players ever to play the game anyway.

mrreality68 · #3 07-15-2022, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

Ernie Banks?

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Ernie Banks is Great but to the masses is he considered(not just in his Home Team) on the same level of Mays, Aaron, Robinson, Ruth, Mantle, Cobb, Wagner, etc?

Sadly the greatness is often included with championships, with play off heroics because that is what the people see, hear , or read (depending on the era), social media etc that creates the buzz and enhances those heroics

packs · #4 07-15-2022, 12:43 PM

Total combined seasons in which Cobb and Wagner played in the postseason: 5 total seasons

Total combined seasons they did not appear in the postseason: 40 seasons

mrreality68 · #5 07-15-2022, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

Total combined seasons in which Cobb and Wagner played in the postseason: 5 total seasons

Total combined seasons they did not appear in the postseason: 40 seasons

Great point

but they are some of the Biggest and Earliest legends of the game and it was made in part from their personalities, the media and they even played each other in the World Series (and their is even a famous card with them shaking hands (1910 PC796 and 1909 W.W. SMITH POSTCARD)

packs · #6 07-15-2022, 01:20 PM

True but that meeting occurred in 1909. Cobb was 22 years old and it was the last time he ever appeared in a World Series. He played another 19 seasons for obscure Tiger and A's teams and is still one of the most recognizable names in the sport.

The point I'm trying to make is that greatness does not go overlooked and neither is Trout. If you follow baseball today, you know Trout is the king of the sport.

mrreality68 · #7 07-15-2022, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

True but that meeting occurred in 1909. Cobb was 22 years old and it was the last time he ever appeared in a World Series. He played another 19 seasons for obscure Tiger and A's teams and is still one of the most recognizable names in the sport.

The point I'm trying to make is that greatness does not go overlooked and neither is Trout. If you follow baseball today, you know Trout is the king of the sport.

I agree he is the current �king� of the sport but I do not believe when his career ends he will be seen as one of the greatest and/or legends of all time. If it continues the way it is

packs · #8 07-15-2022, 01:26 PM

To that I would say this; take a look at the list of other 3 time MVP players:

Because they aren't going away:
Bonds
A-rod

The rest:
Albert Pujols
Mike Schmidt
Mickey Mantle
Yogi Berra
Roy Campanella
Stan Musial
Joe DiMaggio
Jimmie Foxx

and of course, Mike Trout. Pretty hefty list and if he wins a fourth MVP, which I really don't think is far from the realm of possibility, he is again in a class of his own.

1952boyntoncollector · #9 07-15-2022, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

True but that meeting occurred in 1909. Cobb was 22 years old and it was the last time he ever appeared in a World Series. He played another 19 seasons for obscure Tiger and A's teams and is still one of the most recognizable names in the sport.

The point I'm trying to make is that greatness does not go overlooked and neither is Trout. If you follow baseball today, you know Trout is the king of the sport.

yes, but still taking advantage of a playoff opportunity is still better than someone who never receives the opportunity...

some elite players have not been great in the playoffs which has hurt their reputation as well so with risk there is reward.......

In the playoffs you dont get to hit against number 4 and number 5 Starting pitchers, you also dont get to put up huge stats against the terrible teams...

1952boyntoncollector · #10 07-15-2022, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

True but that meeting occurred in 1909. Cobb was 22 years old and it was the last time he ever appeared in a World Series. He played another 19 seasons for obscure Tiger and A's teams and is still one of the most recognizable names in the sport.

The point I'm trying to make is that greatness does not go overlooked and neither is Trout. If you follow baseball today, you know Trout is the king of the sport.

yes, but still taking advantage of a playoff opportunity is till better than someone who never receives the opportunity...

some elite players have not been great in the playoffs which has hurt their reputation as well so with risk there is reward.......

Jeter hit like .308 in the playoffs

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