National pricing

[BobbyStrawberry]

I have no experience in the world of 5- and 6-figure cards, but for 3- to 4-figure prewar cards, recent AH results and the bst here sure seem to indicate an overall downward trend in prices from 1-2 years ago.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I have no experience in the world of 5- and 6-figure cards, but for 3- to 4-figure prewar cards, recent AH results and the bst here sure seem to indicate an overall downward trend in prices from 1-2 years ago.

But apparently people who only focus on the marquis waterfront cards don’t see this.

[Rhotchkiss]

That Gehrig example is pretty dramatic and, I think, surprising.

[Snapolit1]

Market got a little frothy last year. We were all bored and inside all day trying to keep ourselves amused. Now things are a little more “normal”.

My intent was not to dump on the market. But just to say that while there is usually a National or big show premium tacked onto to nice stuff, I suspect this year there will be a lot of inflated asks. I hope seller’s get what they ask. Good for them. But for people setting up with cases full of cool shit we do t have a show at all.

I hope I find a lot of cool shit to buy. I also hope I make massive money playing cards. If they both happen I will be the happiest guy in AC.

[Snapolit1]

Might even hit the Boardwalk after midnight.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Prices on 90s basketball have absolutely cratered. I suspect this is more broadly the case in many modern segments.

Whatever the reality, based on reports I have heard since time immemorial, I expect people going to AC will see mostly aspirational prices at least until the end of the show.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Might even hit the Boardwalk after midnight.

It's down pretty hard out there, not crashing though

[Johnny630]

People are going to be spending like it’s no tomorrow; the vintage card market, significantly higher end, is Stronger than ever and will see higher and Higher sold prices. The consumer who buys vintage higher end cards is in very Sound financial shape.

Modern, I have no idea…the current is the same as Bally’s; it’s a Casino.

[Oscar_Stanage]

As someone trying to add mid tier HOFers, I have not seen the market move at all. I am actually surprised as I figured these would fall hard.
The prices I am seeing are still $300-$500 for something graded "G" with solid presentation:
Joss, Rube, Bender, Baker, etc. I won't be paying those prices, but I don't expect any for less at the Natty.

Perhaps the ultimately bellwether is $900 for any of the 3 Lajoies in "G".
have not seen these come down, will see.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Might even hit the Boardwalk after midnight.

Fine idea, as long as you are packing.

[bnorth]

I know during the amazing run up junk era was selling like crazy. Stuff I couldn't give away was suddenly selling like crazy. Now it has really slowed down. Not back to can't give it away but nothing like big run up.

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I know during the amazing run up junk era was selling like crazy. Stuff I couldn't give away was suddenly selling like crazy. Now it has really slowed down. Not back to can't give it away but nothing like big run up.

I think that's a good assessment of most of the market..."higher than 2019 but lower than 2020-21".

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Market got a little frothy last year. We were all bored and inside all day trying to keep ourselves amused. Now things are a little more “normal”.

My intent was not to dump on the market. But just to say that while there is usually a National or big show premium tacked onto to nice stuff, I suspect this year there will be a lot of inflated asks. I hope seller’s get what they ask. Good for them. But for people setting up with cases full of cool shit we do t have a show at all.

I hope I find a lot of cool shit to buy. I also wish I make massive money playing cards. If they both happen, I will be the happiest guy in AC.

I agree Steve, I get what you’re saying however, there will be a lot of inflated asking prices; I've spoken with several larger dealers about this. They told me they’d instead hold on to their material at high asking prices because said dealer made so much over the past two years they’re OK with holding. They further said the market would get hot again, and the cards would be just as high, if not higher, so they’re not letting go.

[BeanTown]

Every thread needs some cards. Love early Gehrig cards from the 20s. Here are a couple color variations that you don’t see often.

[Snapolit1]

Those Gehrigs are in no danger of crashing anytime soon. Beautiful amazing cards.

[oldjudge]

The true indicator will be REA which opens tomorrow. My guess is that prices on better baseball material will do just fine. But, like they say, time will tell.