Nationals is open for business…. Quick updates

[mrreality68]

Actually the Ruth selection is not big except the Goudey’s however the Ruth’s that are here are higher end and really nice eye appeal. But the prices on some are competitive and 1 vendor was so so over priced on Ruth and Jackson even above a “Nationals Markup”. I mean they wanted $55k for a rookie Joe Jackson PSA 1 and a 1921 exhibit Ruth $20k for an SGC 1.5 as an example and also a 1922 e121 American caramel Ruth holding ball a 1.5 for $33k

[mrreality68]

Biggest issue of the Nationals
No Wi-Fi and very bad cellular coverage
Minimal food vendors so the lines are super super long
Not enough stations to get drinks and same issue with long lines

Great meeting a lot of the dealers here and seeing people and networking

[perezfan]

Is there more than one National going on?

[Oscar_Stanage]

Hi everyone
I was speaking to a dealer today who said he was unable to park and had to leave . Has parking been an issue? What about before the show opens? I was thinking about driving over tomorrow morning (instead of taxi), but don’t want to waste my time.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

Hi everyone
I was speaking to a dealer today who said he was unable to park and had to leave . Has parking been an issue? What about before the show opens? I was thinking about driving over tomorrow morning (instead of taxi), but don’t want to waste my time.

No first hand knowledge, but Blowout has a section just for the National in their forum. There are comments in that thread that parking is a major mess today. IIRC, one commenter decided to leave after driving around for an hour and try again tomorrow.

[Jewish-collector]

At the 2016 National in AC, parking in the main convention center garage was plentiful and always available.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

At the 2016 National in AC, parking in the main convention center garage was plentiful and always available.

Full before 10 AM if you believe posts on the Blowout forum.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

Hi everyone
I was speaking to a dealer today who said he was unable to park and had to leave . Has parking been an issue? What about before the show opens? I was thinking about driving over tomorrow morning (instead of taxi), but don’t want to waste my time.

Taxi everywhere. Strong advice. Park your car at a casino and leave it there.

[Shoeless Moe]

Do any of you geezers have a cell phone?

Take it out and snap some pix and post.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Do any of you geezers have a cell phone?

Take it out and snap some pix and post.

Yes we need pictures, lots and lots of pictures. Some game used bats or even some cards.

[mrreality68]

Hi

I took lots of pictures and will post later.

The reception was so bad you could not even open the web unless you went outside the hall to get reception.

On the positive side there were lots of young kids with their dads and many had a list of things they wanted to buy, the fathers let the kids search, sometimes negotiate prices and pay.

Lots of activities to do and many vendors of products and services not just the card dealer.

Lots of both vintage and modern but modern was a lot more prevalent. There was many dealers selling Pokémon cards with 1 have 6 showcase lscof nothing but those cards.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Is there more than one National going on?

LOL. The show is so great it warrants the s!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Is there more than one National going on?

Like figure skating or gymnastics, I guess. But every year someone seems to use the plural.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Actually the Ruth selection is not big except the Goudey’s however the Ruth’s that are here are higher end and really nice eye appeal. But the prices on some are competitive and 1 vendor was so so over priced on Ruth and Jackson even above a “Nationals Markup”. I mean they wanted $55k for a rookie Joe Jackson PSA 1 and a 1921 exhibit Ruth $20k for an SGC 1.5 as an example and also a 1922 e121 American caramel Ruth holding ball a 1.5 for $33k

I hear you, i saw the same things. I have been at Nationals since 1991 (when i felt then that i missed the “good old days!”), but not for a few years. The new grading standards, particularly recent SGC (unless you have a connection and a stain), are so tough that 1’s and 2’s can be like old 4/5s, and 4’s can look like 7/8 to me. So never a better time to buy the card not the holder, but the change is massively confusing and pricing all over the place.

One MAJOR complaint is tables of graded cards with no prices….it’s very annoying to have to look through cards and try to find something you like and have no idea how a dealer’s pricing is. I only had one day and wanted to cruise because i was just looking for a few needs/wants, so I get that all i had to do was see a few to know if the dealer is realistic or not…

Anyway, for things i was looking for (vintage hockey, A Ruth exhibit 1922, a T3 i needed, and more early baseball), it was pretty limited.

The modern stuff was packed and all over, i bet it’s fun but i look at the tables and the glossy cards and i just dont know how to even know what I am looking at. Good luck to modern collectors!

[x2drich2000]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

One MAJOR complaint is tables of graded cards with no prices….it’s very annoying to have to look through cards and try to find something you like and have no idea how a dealer’s pricing is. I only had one day and wanted to cruise because i was just looking for a few needs/wants, so I get that all i had to do was see a few to know if the dealer is realistic or not...

Definitely agree with this. Yesterday I was looking at a stack of cards and the dealer actually said to me they're not priced yet, come back tomorrow and I'll have prices on them.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Definitely agree with this. Yesterday I was looking at a stack of cards and the dealer actually said to me they're not priced yet, come back tomorrow and I'll have prices on them.

no soup for you!

[CJinPA]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Definitely agree with this. Yesterday I was looking at a stack of cards and the dealer actually said to me they're not priced yet, come back tomorrow and I'll have prices on them.

Wait, WHAT?? I'm heading down tomorrow and I know I'm going to hate myself for doing it but #1, it's in my backyard, # I need a few more Dockman's to complete my set, and #3 I'm nostalgic.... I haven't been to a Nationals since I setup in '92 in Atlanta while in college!

I just hope nobody tells me to come back on Sunday - that's not happening.

[Leon]

Unless there is another National next to this one it is National, not plural. Thanks
.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Leon

Unless there is another National next to this one it is National, not plural. Thanks
.

I suppose it is possible those using the pluralized version might actually be at a game where the Washington Nationals are playing, no?

[CJinPA]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I suppose it is possible those using the pluralized version might actually be at a game where the Washington Nationals are playing, no?

....or typing really quickly before heading into a meeting.... I've been put on blast by the Sergeant - LOL.

Back to cards. I'll provide a report once I return over the weekend.

[CJinPA]

Originally Posted by Leon

Unless there is another National next to this one it is National, not plural. Thanks
.

Grammar Police alert! Thanks, Sergeant.

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by Leon

Unless there is another National next to this one it is National, not plural. Thanks
.

Kind of like the former member here, who liked to use "we" all the time, instead of "I".

Steve

[JollyElm]

I fixed the auto Ruths pic for you, if you wanna copy and paste it into your original post...

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[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Kind of like the former member here, who liked to use "we" all the time, instead of "I".

Steve

We resent being referred to as a former member. We would be careful if we were you. The last time we were impugned in such a malicious fashion, we threatened Archive with legal action, and that has kept said bottom dweller quiet. Not a peep from that burger flipping miscreant since.

Brian (I before We, except after C)