T206 Marquard Armpit 8 Variation

[Pat R]

Do you know there's a blue variation Cliff.

Marquard blue PD.jpg

Marquard blue SC.jpg

[RCFire82]

Interesting this thread just started back up. Saw an "8 armpit variation" for sale on Ebay 2 or 3 weeks ago. It was a buy-it-now for something like $4oo or $5oo. I passed on it, and it got picked up pretty quickly....was that a steal that I missed out on??? I'd seen/read about these before, but wasn't overly sure about them.

[RCFire82]

Here it was.

[Ronnie73]

Yes, that price was a steal. Here's a link to a 2017 auction for one.

https://bid.loveofthegameauctions.co...e?itemid=14309

I have a PSA 4 Piedmont 460 in my collection. I paid $416 in June 2017 for mine. It was sold on ebay by PWCC but the print mark was not mentioned, so I got it cheap.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Yes, that price was a steal. Here's a link to a 2017 auction for one.

https://bid.loveofthegameauctions.co...e?itemid=14309

I have a PSA 4 Piedmont 460 in my collection. I paid $416 in June 2017 for mine. It was sold on ebay by PWCC but the print mark was not mentioned, so I got it cheap.

No offense intended Ron but I don't think that is even close to the current value of the variation. I think the two things that had an affect on the final price of that auction were PSA putting it on the flip and the talk of it being a cataloged variation (which I don't think it ever was or is).

Another example in the same grade sold for less than half the price a year later and I think the owners of either of the PSA 3's would be lucky to get half the price of the REA example today.

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...red-variation/

As someone who follows the variations/print flaws closely I can say in most cases there's very little if any premium paid for them if they're not cataloged.
A good example is the Willett "hockey stick" variation which in my opinion is one of the coolest print flaws and that gets very little value recognition at all.

The only un-cataloged t206 variation that I've seen with a premium recently is the Anderson.

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by Pat R

No offense intended Ron but I don't think that is even close to the current value of the variation. I think the two things that had an affect on the final price of that auction were PSA putting it on the flip and the talk of it being a cataloged variation (which I don't think it ever was or is).

Another example in the same grade sold for less than half the price a year later and I think the owners of either of the PSA 3's would be lucky to get half the price of the REA example today.

Hi Pat, I agree that the price in the 2017 auction got a boost from the PSA label and even the mention of Net54 in the listing. I don't follow the T206 prices like I used to the last few years. But I still believe that the card that was sold for the $510 was a great price, when you look at what a regular PSA 4 sells for and the difference in price to get the variation, I would have bought it if I saw it and gotten it relabeled and relisted it as the variation for twice my costs into the card. The only other thing is it's not the nicest looking 4. Kinda reminds me of the PSA 4 Zimmerman Tolstoi that I once had.

Here's my PSA 4 Marquard.

[Marslife]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Do you know there's a blue variation Cliff.

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Pat,

your killing me :-)

Is this the only "Blue Blotch" or are there more out there?

Geesh....

Cliff

[Ronnie73]

I just noticed that my card has a line at the center of NY of the same color pink/red. I looked at about 12 different cards with the red 8 and none have that pink line like my card. Just kinda odd but figured I'd mention it.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Marslife

Pat,

your killing me :-)

Is this the only "Blue Blotch" or are there more out there?

Geesh....

Cliff

Hey Cliff, the two different ones that I posted are the only scans I have but there's no doubt that there are probably more out there especially since it is found on more than one back. Now I'm not saying there would be a lot of them but I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a handful of others.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Hi,
I picked this up in a private sale at the Natty and had no idea it was a variation (I do not think the seller did either).
I paid a little more than I should have- no wifi to check the prices.....

I later learned its a variation- is there any premium associated with this variation?

[Ronnie73]

Sorry that my picture didn't show up.

Here's a link to the scan. Hopefully this will at least work for now.

http://www.myt206.com/net54/marquardprintmark.jpg

[Marslife]

Who is good at tabulation? what is our Post count by slash/8/ blob by backs?

Looks like PSA has accounted for 4 (red 8's) on their pop report:

Marquard, Rube 4 total Grade PSA 1; PSA 3 (2); PSA 5
Follow Through-Red 8

Do you think they will still put a "Red 8" or "Red Slash" on the flips if they graded one now?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Marslife

Who is good at tabulation? what is our Post count by slash/8/ blob by backs?

Looks like PSA has accounted for 4 (red 8's) on their pop report:

Marquard, Rube 4 total Grade PSA 1; PSA 3 (2); PSA 5
Follow Through-Red 8

Do you think they will still put a "Red 8" or "Red Slash" on the flips if they graded one now?

Hard to say with PSA Cliff. I was told in person at shows by several PSA reps including a couple of higher ups in the back that I asked to speak to that they
will not grade any variation that's not cataloged but they did exactly that with this Marquard.

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by Marslife

Who is good at tabulation? what is our Post count by slash/8/ blob by backs?

Looks like PSA has accounted for 4 (red 8's) on their pop report:

Marquard, Rube 4 total Grade PSA 1; PSA 3 (2); PSA 5
Follow Through-Red 8

Do you think they will still put a "Red 8" or "Red Slash" on the flips if they graded one now?

I've been doing my best to count them as they show up. So far I've counted 9 cards with the 8armpit. 5 Piedmont 460-25, and 4 Sweet Caporal 460-25. I haven't been counting the pink dash or the blue blob. I've been waiting for a nice cheap Sweet Caporal in a PSA 4, to go with my Piedmont.

[t206fanatic]

Originally Posted by Marslife

Who is good at tabulation? what is our Post count by slash/8/ blob by backs?

Looks like PSA has accounted for 4 (red 8's) on their pop report:

Marquard, Rube 4 total Grade PSA 1; PSA 3 (2); PSA 5
Follow Through-Red 8

Do you think they will still put a "Red 8" or "Red Slash" on the flips if they graded one now?

I got mine reslabbed last year, and they put the "Red 8" up top