The National - New Management

Johnny630 · #1 08-01-2022, 02:52 PM

Can we get Dallas along with Chicago and Cleveland now? Maybe an occasional Las Vegas.

5-Tool Player · #2 08-01-2022, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630

Can we get Dallas along with Chicago and Cleveland now? Maybe an occasional Las Vegas.

Or maybe Anaheim....LA or San Diego ?

perezfan · #3 08-01-2022, 09:42 PM

San Diego or Vegas.

isiahfan · #4 08-01-2022, 09:57 PM

Not that these guys don't have tons of years in the hobby and connections/thoughts of their own...but are any of the new regime members here?

If I am not mistaken...Dallas, Philly, Chi, SF, and a few others have 1-2 pretty large shows a year already. If they are unwilling to do one every fourth year on the West Coast (CHI/CLE-AC-PHL-NSH/CHI/West Coast) Maybe like others have said ....try to at least host something every other year. Obviously this has been said for years...and if there was a decent amount of $$$$ to be made it probably would have been done by now?...so even if it wasn't a regular occurrence I feel one every now and then would be a massive hit. It wasn't like the last Anaheim NSCC in '06 was dead...it was packed.

I agree on the corporate thing too...would love to see them off to the side...it messes up my walking patterns lol...but truth is they bring too much $$$$$$ to not get what they want. I just can't even say that when I was 5-6-7 years old collecting that the corporate type set ups would have been interesting at all to me.

insidethewrapper · #5 08-01-2022, 10:23 PM

The more dealer tables the better. Collectors come to purchase cards not look at Auction Houses items which can only be purchased online. Grading companies should be in a different room. What ever happened to the great shows that use to be the best in the hobby ( in the Detroit area ) ? Never hear about this option anymore.

ncinin · #6 08-01-2022, 11:02 PM

According to the 2023 Floor Plan we picked up at the dealer booth selection lottery they are using the entire first floor and I believe is a horseshoe where all rooms can be accessed without going into the lobby to go to the exhibit hall not used in past Chicago National shows.

There will be 592 10X15 dealer booths, just eight booths short of Atlantic City but (I believe) more than past Chicago shows. In addition there will be 40 10X0 booths making a total of 632 dealer booths.

Does anyone have a 2021 National floor plan handy to see how many booths were available. There should be more in 2023.

There will be much more corporate areas and the autograph area is moved.

The fear of more corporate area and less dealer booths is unfounded according to the new floor plan.

Leon · #7 08-02-2022, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ncinin

According to the 2023 Floor Plan we picked up at the dealer booth selection lottery they are using the entire first floor and I believe is a horseshoe where all rooms can be accessed without going into the lobby to go to the exhibit hall not used in past Chicago National shows.

There will be 592 10X15 dealer booths, just eight booths short of Atlantic City but (I believe) more than past Chicago shows. In addition there will be 40 10X0 booths making a total of 632 dealer booths.

Does anyone have a 2021 National floor plan handy to see how many booths were available. There should be more in 2023.

There will be much more corporate areas and the autograph area is moved.

The fear of more corporate area and less dealer booths is unfounded according to the new floor plan.

But if there are more dealer tables then why are dealers and auctioneers, whom have already set up and still want to, being denied?

Mark17 · #8 08-01-2022, 11:05 PM

Back in the day (1988-1991) when I was living in California, Bob Lee and Randy Thyberg put on some great shows in the LA and San Francisco areas. They didn't need to call it a "National" although I think Bob might've hosted one or two of those too. Why can't somebody put on some major shows around the country that have nothing to do with The National?

Generally, I think what is dealer-friendly is also collector and fan-friendly. More dealers = more stuff. I've never seen the point of the corporate setups (besides the money it probably generates for the promoter.) To me, the corporate sponsor stuff is a lot like having to suffer through commercials while watching a great show on TV.

Some prominent people in this hobby could make a bunch of money and help all of us by teaming up and offering major shows a few times a year. Maybe three types: vintage centric, memorabilia and uniform centric, modern centric, in Atlanta, Minneapolis, and Los Angeles one year, then Cleveland, Dallas, and San Francisco the next, etc.

661fish · #9 08-02-2022, 12:00 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was told that there will never be another National on the west coast because most of the dealers are mid west and east coast. They would complain about the travel and the lack of vintage material that was brought to sell to the dealers.

isiahfan · #10 08-02-2022, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

The more dealer tables the better. Collectors come to purchase cards not look at Auction Houses items which can only be purchased online. Grading companies should be in a different room. What ever happened to the great shows that use to be the best in the hobby ( in the Detroit area ) ? Never hear about this option anymore.

Are your referring to the Jim Hawkins shows? I don't really remember much else that I would consider great (and large)...though there are some execellent local shows there still to this day. Jim and Mark seemed to just almost disappear from the hobby after they closed Fanatics...think they ran a couple shows after that, but Jim went back to writing (Oakland Press) and no idea what happened to Mark.

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