The National - New Management

[Jewish-collector]

The National seems to be transitioning to mostly modern cards, trade nights, breaks, etc,... so why not create separate Nationals in different locations for vintage, for modern, trade nights, etc,... The Dallas show has about 600 tables, so why not make that a modern National, since I've heard it is almost entirely modern cards.

There used to be a vintage only show up in New York state in the 1990's (?), where the promoter said nothing on dealer tables after 1976 or something like that. And, there used to be a "sports equipment" show in the 1990's in the Baltimore & Washington, DC areas (signs, bats, gloves, uniforms, pennants, etc,...) organized by Washington Senators collector & broadcaster Phil Wood.

Everyone has a different perspective on where the National should be and with a new promoter, it will be interesting to see where they have it in 2024 and 2025.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

The National seems to be transitioning to mostly modern cards, trade nights, breaks, etc,... so why not create separate Nationals in different locations for vintage, for modern, trade nights, etc,... The Dallas show has about 600 tables, so why not make that a modern National, since I've heard it is almost entirely modern cards.

There used to be a vintage only show up in New York state in the 1990's (?), where the promoter said nothing on dealer tables after 1976 or something like that. And, there used to be a "sports equipment" show in the 1990's in the Baltimore & Washington, DC areas (signs, bats, gloves, uniforms, pennants, etc,...) organized by Washington Senators collector & broadcaster Phil Wood.

Everyone has a different perspective on where the National should be and with a new promoter, it will be interesting to see where they have it in 2024 and 2025.

I would love it for there to be a strictly vintage show. I think it's a matter of who is going to front the money to organize and find a space for it. My biggest gripe with the National was the corporate nonsense coming from sponsors like Whatnot. I do not care about breakers in the slightest, I don't care about card influencers. I'm sure there are many collectors, dealers and hobbyists who feel the same.

[JollyElm]

Just scanning all of the YouTube videos to find decent run-downs (meaning videos showing the vintage cards in all of their glory) of The National was a 'SMH to the Max' undertaking. The self-importance of these (are they really called) 'influencers' was annoying as all hell. They pretend they're doing a walk-through for the people who couldn't attend, but 99.9% of it is them talking about themselves and referring to other videos they've done. Plus, do people have actual names anymore? Even a regular nickname? Every person mentioned was just a screen name. Not once did I hear one of these self-involved people say, "Hey, it was great finally meeting Dave in person. What a guy!" Nope. More like, "On day 3, I received a great gift from "PackBreakingNerdBoy187," who I know through "RippingInMyBasement492." He does a podcast with "DuckDuckGooseyGoo22." Don't forget to hit the 'subscribe' button!!!"
There's only so much I could take of these videographing 'personalities.' My gawd!!!!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Just scanning all of the YouTube videos to find decent run-downs (meaning videos showing the vintage cards in all of their glory) of The National was a 'SMH to the Max' undertaking. The self-importance of these (are they really called) 'influencers' was annoying as all hell. They pretend they're doing a walk-through for the people who couldn't attend, but 99.9% of it is them talking about themselves and referring to other videos they've done. Plus, do people have actual names anymore? Even a regular nickname? Every person mentioned was just a screen name. Not once did I hear one of these self-involved people say, "Hey, it was great finally meeting Dave in person. What a guy!" Nope. More like, "On day 3, I received a great gift from "PackBreakingNerdBoy187," who I know through "RippingInMyBasement492." He does a podcast with "DuckDuckGooseyGoo22." Don't forget to hit the 'subscribe' button!!!"
There's only so much I could take of these videographing 'personalities.' My gawd!!!!

Thanks for the laughs. So ridiculous, and has absolutely nothing to do with the hobby I know and love. I understand there’s a big market for it, but wish they had a second (or alternate) National just to accommodate this nonsense.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

The National seems to be transitioning to mostly modern cards, trade nights, breaks, etc,... so why not create separate Nationals in different locations for vintage, for modern, trade nights, etc,... The Dallas show has about 600 tables, so why not make that a modern National, since I've heard it is almost entirely modern cards.

There used to be a vintage only show up in New York state in the 1990's (?), where the promoter said nothing on dealer tables after 1976 or something like that. And, there used to be a "sports equipment" show in the 1990's in the Baltimore & Washington, DC areas (signs, bats, gloves, uniforms, pennants, etc,...) organized by Washington Senators collector & broadcaster Phil Wood.

Everyone has a different perspective on where the National should be and with a new promoter, it will be interesting to see where they have it in 2024 and 2025.

That show was in Albany NY and run by Ed Keetz. I went to 1-2 of those all vintage shows and they were a ton of fun

And you do know there is a show in Strongsville. Ohio which is almost all vintage. It was all vintage displayed but that eased up slightly after Paul Fusco passed on

Rich