Question about new Ebay Authenticity Program???

Picklepete · #1 08-08-2022, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by edjs

So what bothers me is that the service is mandatory. I just bought a card from house of cards, md on eBay. It shipped to the Authenticator, whoever it may be. I don�t need eBay to tell me it�s genuine, I can tell for myself. Besides, the seller is Huggins and Scott�s eBay site, and I doubt they would risk their reputation over an $800 card. But I�m not �allowed� to opt out. When I�m told I don�t have a choice in the matter, I remind the company I always have the choice of doing business elsewhere. So no one needs worry anymore about me sniping you on eBay again. My 2 cents.

get over it.
you'll get the card & it will be fine. it may take 2 days longer.
You are NOT paying for the service, so why get worked up.
Seems EXTREME !

edjs · #2 08-09-2022, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Picklepete

get over it.
you'll get the card & it will be fine. it may take 2 days longer.
You are NOT paying for the service, so why get worked up.
Seems EXTREME !

It�s okay to be obtuse. You just be you.

G1911 · #3 08-09-2022, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Picklepete

get over it.
you'll get the card & it will be fine. it may take 2 days longer.
You are NOT paying for the service, so why get worked up.
Seems EXTREME !

Sometimes you may NOT get the card. If PSA rejects it for the label being incorrect or the description being factually correct but not matching the label, the buyer does not get their card at all. This is one of the many concerns; especially for those of us who collect oddball items the authenticators don�t know what to do with. I the buyer am aware that many items I buy are not listed correctly, because they are rare and little known. I still want them, don�t need a grader rejecting because they don�t know if it�s real or kicking it back if they do recognize it because it wasn�t described right. I don�t need some third party to tell me what deals I am and am not allowed to make.

Leon · #4 08-14-2022, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Picklepete

get over it.
you'll get the card & it will be fine. it may take 2 days longer.
You are NOT paying for the service, so why get worked up.
Seems EXTREME !

You need your full name in your posts, please. thanks

back to sort of on topic. I just won a 400 dollar raw card and it recently came back from ebay authentication., They are definitely going to charge for that service and the fancy wrapping., The only question is, how much?
.,

Huck · #5 11-04-2022, 10:21 PM

I just received an eBay authenticity guarantee card. For what its worth the card came packaged well and is presented in a hardboard display case. It is nice. The psa graded card is encased in a sleeve with a sticker that voids the guarantee if broken.

Schlesinj · #6 02-09-2023, 06:46 AM

I am sure this has been answered in other posts.

If seller offers no returns I assume if a card comes back not authentic the buyer gets their money back. How does that happen? Does eBay hold money in escrow assuming you pay via PayPal?

bnorth · #7 02-09-2023, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I am sure this has been answered in other posts.

If seller offers no returns I assume if a card comes back not authentic the buyer gets their money back. How does that happen? Does eBay hold money in escrow assuming you pay via PayPal?

eBay holds the money until it passes authenticity in my experience.

jimq16415 · #8 02-09-2023, 07:16 AM

Last weekend I listed a raw card for 250 or best offer. I accepted an offer of 200 and off it went to the auth program. After that I listed a PSA 48 bowman for 250, it showed up in my listings as auth program, so I revised it to 225 or offer and still in the program. I'm glad I'm usually a bottom feeder!

FrankWakefield · #9 02-09-2023, 08:15 AM

What Leon said... "definitely going to charge for that service"

It is a fancy box. And the fancy box is in a nice shipping box. When we buy/sell on eBay, they assess a varying fee. And the service (not the best word, because some of us want to not be 'served') is paid for by eBay from the money they collect from us. So all eBay participants are paying for it, just like we indirectly pay for the salaries of eBay employees, for the computer hardware they use, for their health insurance and such... We are paying for it, it just isn't a line item that we easily see, like we see our state sales tax.

raulus · #10 02-09-2023, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

What Leon said... "definitely going to charge for that service"

It is a fancy box. And the fancy box is in a nice shipping box. When we buy/sell on eBay, they assess a varying fee.

It's certainly possible that they will charge for this "service" in the future. The cost to provide it has got to be $10 (maybe more) per item, by the time you add up shipping, packaging, and inspection, plus just the infrastructure of managing it all.

At the same time, I suspect that it also saves eBay by reducing the number of disputes over items that were not shipped, or were not as described. I suspect that the annual dollar amount in prior years for settling fraud disputes on their platform can't have been small.

Even if it just keeps honest buyers/sellers from getting cheesed at eBay from having a bad experience when they get hosed by an unscrupulous counterparty, then that seems like a win for them.

Of course, the counterpoint is that around these parts, there seems to be no shortage of people who are cheesed at the very existence of the program. So it cuts both ways!

Gorditadogg · #11 02-09-2023, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

What Leon said... "definitely going to charge for that service"

It is a fancy box. And the fancy box is in a nice shipping box. When we buy/sell on eBay, they assess a varying fee. And the service (not the best word, because some of us want to not be 'served') is paid for by eBay from the money they collect from us. So all eBay participants are paying for it, just like we indirectly pay for the salaries of eBay employees, for the computer hardware they use, for their health insurance and such... We are paying for it, it just isn't a line item that we easily see, like we see our state sales tax.

That's not the way a free market works. Retailers charge what the market will bear, the ones with the lowest expenses make the most money.

As Nicolo says, ebay is probably reducing their costs with this program.

On the topic, I do have a large stack of those cases that the authenticated cards come in. Has anybody figured out anything useful to do with them?

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babraham · #12 02-10-2023, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

BTW, I am amassing a stack of these fancy boxes lately, are they recyclable or should I just pitch them in the trash?

All my fancy ebay boxes went right into the recycling bin...hopefully they can get recycled!

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Originally Posted by Huck

The psa graded card is encased in a sleeve with a sticker that voids the guarantee if broken.

I pop them all out of those guarantee sleeves instantly too. Ha!

Gorditadogg · #13 02-11-2023, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

You need your full name in your posts, please. thanks

back to sort of on topic. I just won a 400 dollar raw card and it recently came back from ebay authentication., They are definitely going to charge for that service and the fancy wrapping., The only question is, how much?
.,

Zero, Leon. Nada. That's not how it works.

If all you had to do is increase your internal costs and then pass them through as fees, Scott would be paying you a 7-figure consulting fee to get us all to consign our cards over to The Collector Connection. And Scott could then take a 50% markup on all his sales. It's not that easy.

55koufax · #14 02-12-2023, 02:37 PM

I won a 1980 Rickey H RC in 8.5 from 4SC on eBay. They sent it in for their lame authentication. It was REJECTED as authentic. I was refunded by eBay.

I contacted my people at 4SC and they said this is a 1st for them. They have never had a rejection until now.

I could care less. When the card gets returned to 4SC I will buy it again.

The cert # was recent, so not worried.

raulus · #15 02-12-2023, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 55koufax

I won a 1980 Rickey H RC in 8.5 from 4SC on eBay. They sent it in for their lame authentication. It was REJECTED as authentic. I was refunded by eBay.

I contacted my people at 4SC and they said this is a 1st for them. They have never had a rejection until now.

I could care less. When the card gets returned to 4SC I will buy it again.

The cert # was recent, so not worried.

Weird. I wonder if there�s more to the story here. Would be interested to know more about the details.

Beercan collector · #16 02-14-2023, 09:55 AM

I purchased 2013 Arenado and it was rejected because of scratches on the case ..
Also it says I filed a case which is not true I was patiently waiting to receive the card

raulus · #17 02-14-2023, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Beercan collector

I purchased 2013 Arenado and it was rejected because of scratches on the case ..
Also it says I filed a case which is not true I was patiently waiting to receive the card

Who knew that the authenticators were getting into case grading now??!!

I guess that's the new frontier. Maybe we'll get cases within cases so that we all know what grade the inner case got! Sooner or later we'll end up with nesting dolls and so much plastic between us and the cardboard that you won't be able to see what's inside.

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