T206 Honus Wagner SGC 5 - John D. Wagner Collection

cgjackson222 · #1 08-12-2022, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

The new cert numbers on SGC are a different number structure than the old. I have reholdered many cards and they do not re-use the older format certs, they create a new one and it gets entered as being graded the day it was reholdered. There is a 60/5 listed in the old SGC pop and a new 5 listed in the new report. I'm guessing this is just a legacy reholder.

I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by the old SGC pop?
You can view the Pop grades in either the old format or the new format.
Either way, they have graded 18 Honus Wagners (1 Piedmont, and 17 Sweet Cap) and only one is a 5.

Pat R · #2 08-12-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by the old SGC pop?
You can view the Pop grades in either the old format or the new format.
Either way, they have graded 18 Honus Wagners (1 Piedmont, and 17 Sweet Cap) and only one is a 5.

What Greg is saying is this card was graded before and is in the old pop report as a 60/5 but it was put in a new holder and now shows up in the new pop report as a 5 but they changed the cert number and it shows as being graded recently. PSA on the other hand keeps the same cert number when they re-holder a card which I think is the better way to do it.

Here's another SGC Wagner that changed holders and cert numbers.

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cgjackson222 · #3 08-12-2022, 04:09 PM

Where can one view the old pop report?

Pat R · #4 08-12-2022, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Where can one view the old pop report?

At the top of the page it says show it says show old grading yes or no and the default is no so you have to change that to yes.

cgjackson222 · #5 08-12-2022, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

At the top of the page it says show it says show old grading yes or no and the default is no so you have to change that to yes.

As previously mentioned, doesn't changing it to old grading, just change the way the grade is displayed? It doesn't seem to matter if you are viewing the old or the new grade. The pop report remains the same--they have graded 18 Honus Wagners.

Pat R · #6 08-12-2022, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

As previously mentioned, doesn't changing it to old grading, just change the way the grade is displayed? It doesn't seem to matter if you are viewing the old or the new grade. The pop report remains the same--they have graded 18 Honus Wagners.

I understand what you're saying now Charles and you're right, when I check the cert on SGC 2 Wagner with the new slab it shows that it was graded in August 2007 so even though they changed the cert the date of grading didn't change and the SGC 5 Wagner was graded in 2021 and wasn't in an old slab as Greg B. stated.

cgjackson222 · #7 08-12-2022, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

I understand what you're saying now Charles and you're right, when I check the cert on SGC 2 Wagner with the new slab it shows that it was graded in August 2007 so even though they changed the cert the date of grading didn't change and the SGC 5 Wagner was graded in 2021 and wasn't in an old slab as Greg B. stated.

It would have been super-weird for them to hype a card as though they had never seen one this nice before if all it was was a reslab.

luciobar1980 · #8 02-12-2024, 09:43 PM

My first thought was also that those are some worn corners for a 5. BUT, if literally everything else about the card is damn nice I don�t think it�s unreasonable.

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