Would you buy a high end (10k) raw card?

G1911 · #1 08-24-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Would you trust buying a house on your own eyeball examination and decline the services of a professional home inspector?

Would you buy an expensive car and trust your own personal examination and decline reviewing the car fax report?

Would you buy a franchise from someone and just examine the books yourself, or would you hire a professional accountant who does it for a living?

There are people on the board of who are 100% certain of their own powers to avoid fraud. I am not one of them.

Twice in the last decade I have bought counterfeit items from auction houses that are held in the highest esteem on this board. Honest mistakes that were fixed but still mistakes.

This would make some sense, if the graders had a track record better than they have. From thousands of publicly outed trimmed cards to complete fakes to gift grades to being so incompetent they have to shut down their auto grading entirely, they do not have this track record. How is an unknown grader at PSA or SGC better able to evaluate? If one is dropping $10K, and one can�t authenticate items yourself, one shouldn�t be buying that item. That�s a lot of money for someone who doesn�t know that set to spend.

Caveat emptor. One can learn the subject and evaluate themselves, or outsource it to companies with long records of corruption and/or incompetence, frauds, fakes, gift grades and alterations. I don�t see the later as preferable. One should evaluate the card, not rely on what kind of plastic it is in.

jingram058 · #2 08-24-2022, 11:25 AM

Sigh...I think it's time for me to go on vacation, yet again.

Carter08 · #3 08-24-2022, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

This would make some sense, if the graders had a track record better than they have. From thousands of publicly outed trimmed cards to complete fakes to gift grades to being so incompetent they have to shut down their auto grading entirely, they do not have this track record. How is an unknown grader at PSA or SGC better able to evaluate? If one is dropping $10K, and one can�t authenticate items yourself, one shouldn�t be buying that item. That�s a lot of money for someone who doesn�t know that set to spend.

Caveat emptor. One can learn the subject and evaluate themselves, or outsource it to companies with long records of corruption and/or incompetence, frauds, fakes, gift grades and alterations. I don�t see the later as preferable. One should evaluate the card, not rely on what kind of plastic it is in.

I think it�s less about trusting that the grader knows more than you do. I think it�s more about having a well heeled company involved that you can turn to and hopefully get money from in the event something goes wrong. That�s the protection I see in a slab on a big card. Turns out to be fake and they should owe you. Maybe they fine print what they do to try to escape this but my understanding from a different thread is they make you whole.

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