National location in 2024 and future

[Lobo Aullando]

The big hall(s) down below street level is/are 473k sqft. The big hall up the giant escalators is 230k sqft. It might be acceptable to stick the graders and signers upstairs, and then have the dealers and mandatory corporate booths downstairs. They could even put some corporate stuff on the mezzanine between the street level and the lower halls; everybody will have to walk by it.

There is also the matter of some onerous union rules. You can take it in yourself, but no carts.

Originally Posted by Michael B

The Washington Convention Center is not a great place for the show. I have gone there for the auto show, World Stamp Expo, Health and fitness expo and small events. The main hall is only about 160' x 90', or 155' x 60'.

Edit: Looks like DJ already had the measurements. 473k sqft works out to 500' x 940'.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by Lobo Aullando

The big hall(s) down below street level is/are 473k sqft. The big hall up the giant escalators is 230k sqft. It might be acceptable to stick the graders and signers upstairs, and then have the dealers and mandatory corporate booths downstairs. They could even put some corporate stuff on the mezzanine between the street level and the lower halls; everybody will have to walk by it.

There is also the matter of some onerous union rules. You can take it in yourself, but no carts.



Edit: Looks like DJ already had the measurements. 473k sqft works out to 500' x 940'.

When I first pulled up the site the ABC hall showed up as much smaller. When I reentered the site the real exhibition hall came up and it is 1290' long 290' wide for half the hall and 370' wide for the other half. So roughly four football fields long and one football field wide, more or less. That makes it seem like it is longer and wider than AC. City owned convention center so not surprised it is union. It fits the cities' politics. Other than that there are still the parking, food and hotel issues. Those pretty much put it out of the running.

[mrreality68]

I would love for them to just make it simple. Find the Convention Centers that have the right size to handle the Show and the right number of hotel rooms to handle it and then rotate it thru out the country each year. This gives those that do not or cannot travel the opportunity to go every so many years and it gives those able or willing to travel the ability to get there but also explore that city or surrounding areas, take in games and events in different parts of the country.

The economics is the only factor that may affect this from the cost of the venue and the area of the country that the Shows organizers feel if an area can support the show.

Regardless Book it and lets go

[t206blogcom]

Why not Richmond, VA? https://www.richmondcenter.com/about

[Snapolit1]

One think a lot of people aren’t considering is air fare. Those who travel for business a lot realize that tickets to Chicago and New York are DC are usually way cheaper than smaller and midsized cities. See how many people fly to one of the smaller cities being mentioned when the airfare is $2000.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

One think a lot of people aren’t considering is air fare. Those who travel for business a lot realize that tickets to Chicago and New York are DC are usually way cheaper than smaller and midsized cities. See how many people show us to one of the smaller cities being proposed when the airfare is $2000.

Very good point air travel cost should be considered as a factor but I still believe there are enough good locations that could support a healthy rotation thru out the country.

[Snapolit1]

FUTURE NATIONAL SITES ANNOUNCED
The results of the ballot sent to eligible voters are in and the NSCC Board of Directors is pleased to announce the sites for future events.

2023 Chicago (Rosemont) July 26-30, 2023
2024 Cleveland IX Center July 24-28, 2024
2025 Chicago (Rosemont) July 30-August 3, 2025

[Jewish-collector]

Regarding the Washington, DC convention center, there are plenty of hotels within 2 blocks of the facility. The problem is there isn't much parking.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Regarding the Washington, DC convention center, there are plenty of hotels within 2 blocks of the facility. The problem is there isn't much parking.

That's a general issue in DC IME. Wonder what the story is in Philly?

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Regarding the Washington, DC convention center, there are plenty of hotels within 2 blocks of the facility. The problem is there isn't much parking.

With the construction of City Center a lot of hotels have opened up in the area. Unfortunately most, if not all hotels, are valet parking only. The Hampton Inn on Mass. Ave charges $59/night and the Homewood Suites on New York Ave charges $49/night. The Marriott Marquis next door charges $60.18/night. The closest parking garage is at City Center on 9th and H Streets about 3 blocks south. During the week it is $19 all day or $14 early bird (in by 9 out by 6). Weekends is flat rate $10.

[Bigdaddy]

I've been to large trade shows in Atlanta and Orlando recently and both of those cities have large convention centers and plenty of hotels and cheap flights. Next year it will be in Denver.

I agree with the above poster about segregating the floor space depending on the type of wares you are peddling. That could actually open up the choices since a single large, contiguous floor space would not be the only deciding factor.

Let's give the new management team a chance. I am hopeful they will bring some fresh ideas to the table.