1952 Rosen Mantle SGC 9.5 Final Price – Too high, too low, just right?

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Interesting addendum.

Heard through the grapevine that originally, this card was sent to psa to be slabbed. Psa came back and said it would be graded a 9. Card was not slabbed and was then sent to Sgc for grading.

If the (3) current PSA 10's were cracked out and resubmitted raw, likely no chance any of them get a 10 with current grading standards either. They were all graded many years ago with less stringent standards.

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by rand1com

If the (3) current PSA 10's were cracked out and resubmitted raw, likely no chance any of them get a 10 with current grading standards either. They were all graded many years ago with less stringent standards.

This is an important consideration. And I think this also gets at the heart of one of the big issues with TPGs...lack of consistency.

There was lots of chatter in the last year about how PSA has really tightened up their standards for giving out a PSA 10. Which is why "buy the card, not the flip" has always been such a prevalent mantra. The problem is, a large portion of the market, especially in the higher end stuff, is obsessed with the grade, as seen with the grade shopping and crossover attempts.

My suspicion is that if you bought 10 copies of a card in one grade, say, a PSA 9, and you re-submitted all 10 of those in the same order, cracked out of their slabs, you would not get back the same results.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by rand1com

If the (3) current PSA 10's were cracked out and resubmitted raw, likely no chance any of them get a 10 with current grading standards either. They were all graded many years ago with less stringent standards.

I think it depends who is submitting them but over time grading standards have overall gotten tougher. Presently, tougher is an understatement. I think the grading scale is now 1 to 7 on vintage and 6 to 9 on shine.

I am not sure how I feel about how a slight tilt on a card from an issue that is prone to severe tilts should impact the 10 consideration. If the card is "perfect" otherwise can you really put it in the 9 holder?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by rand1com

If the (3) current PSA 10's were cracked out and resubmitted raw, likely no chance any of them get a 10 with current grading standards either. They were all graded many years ago with less stringent standards.

Sgc will go to 11!