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Old 08-31-2022, 02:45 PM
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even at his position I still think Joey Votto and Todd Helton were superior players but I also don't think they're HOFers either.
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even at his position I still think Joey Votto and Todd Helton were superior players but I also don't think they're HOFers either.
I don't disagree on the merits but I think Votto will make it because of the whole career with one team thing. And his numbers are pretty good, it wouldn't be a Baines situation.
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I think Votto has the best chance of all three (unless Goldschmidt grinds out a triple crown). But I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in Keith Hernandez-like purgatory.
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I think Votto has the best chance of all three (unless Goldschmidt grinds out a triple crown). But I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in Keith Hernandez-like purgatory.
Part of Hernandez' purgatory is drug issues, no?
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Part of Hernandez' purgatory is drug issues, no?
Oh, really? I honestly don't know I just know he ran out his time on the ballot but has always been a point of contention.
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https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...679-story.html

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...gs-mlb-scandal

I would think like Parker it hurt his chances but I don't know.
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Honestly, I believe all of them will get in. Votto will get in after a couple years on the ballot. Helton will get in sooner rather than later on the veteran's committee, and I actually think there is enough of a push to get Hernandez in by committee as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but if I were forced to wager, it would be that within 10 years, all three of them will be in.
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