National sites announced

[Snapolit1]

Sure there will general approval of this. I think three years in a row in the midwest is dull and will probably supress the Cleveland turn out, but I'm not a dealer and have no skin in the game. I would have put the third in the west (CA) or southwest somewhere.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Sure there will general approval of this. I think three years in a row in the midwest is dull and will probably supress the Cleveland turn out, but I'm not a dealer and have no skin in the game. I would have put the third in the west (CA) or southwest somewhere.

I completely agree. I know they pick the midwest to get the maximum number of people who will drive, but god forbid they actually make it a destination that people want to go to.

I'd have a much better chance of selling the National to my wife if it was a joint vacation to say Denver, Austin, Santa Fe, San Fran, Memphis, etc... basically anywhere other than New Jersey, Cleveland, and Chicago (which is a great town, but not every two years).

[Leon]

IF the Cleveland date was in Rosemont it would be better. But this is not bad to me. Of course if it were in Dallas I could just hop over there at lunch

Peckinpaugh is cool with it too..
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[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

For as much as I love Chicago as a city, I can't stand that venue or area. While it's incredibly convenient for its purpose (a huge bonus), there's nothing to do in that area. It's an absolute bore. I was usually too burnt out after being at the show and just not in the mood for lengthy travels afterward. Even finding something simple to do such as going to a good Mom and Pop diner in the morning isn't anywhere nearby that I could ever find. If you like Mexican food or pricey steak houses, you'll be in heaven, but that's not for everyone.

Cleveland...I do like the venue here a lot more than in Chicago. Love the wide open floor plan which is extremely easy to navigate. Parking is dead simple, plentiful and affordable. From a purely personal perspective, I've had better fortune in at Cleveland Nationals versus those held in Chicago. Not fond of that city, however, and have always had a bit of a drive between venue and hotel if I recall. I can never wait to be on my way out of town.

As someone posted in the other National thread, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to do an interchange with Chicago--fresh city--Chicago--fresh city, etc. Perhaps another idea would be Chicago--fresh city--Cleveland, etc.

[Rich Klein]

I am personally of the opinion that much like ComicCon and many other events just parking the show in one place (Chicago) is perfectly fine.

We've gone ad nauseum over this topic and I suspect after many of us are long gone, we'll still be going ad nauseum over this topic but remember there are only "x" amount of places which meet the current group's requirements and we don't yet know if the new management's group is going to be the same way.

If so, we're limited to our choices, and we can say what we want and many of us (including me over the years do) but for various BUISNESS reasons our choices are limited.

Rich

[Snapolit1]

On the other hand, the porn industry has held their convention in the same place as far back as I can remember (Vegas), and no one's going to argue that they haven't prospered over the years.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

On the other hand, the porn industry has held their convention in the same place as far back as I can remember (Vegas), and no one's going to argue that they haven't prospered over the years.

Well, that's tantamount to if Cooperstown had a venue large enough to host a National! Pretty sure it would be held there all the time!

(Maybe not. It's a sportscard convention, not just baseball...)

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

On the other hand, the porn industry has held their convention in the same place as far back as I can remember (Vegas), and no one's going to argue that they haven't prospered over the years.

Well then the National should be billed as 'National Card Porn Convention' and then we can go to Vegas instead of the other places. I'm game....pardon the pun.

Butch

[byrone]

No Wrigley Field games during the 2023 show. (:

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Leon

IF the Cleveland date was in Rosemont it would be better. But this is not bad to me. Of course if it were in Dallas I could just hop over there at lunch

Peckinpaugh is cool with it too..
.

I doubt it, Leon. Inasmuch as Peckinpaugh managed the Cleveland Indians for 6+ years, I have to think he'd prefer the National be held there.