OMG PSA slabs blatantly altered Tiger Woods rookie, then it passes ebay program

Peter_Spaeth · #1 09-01-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Awesome, one. That�s actually the highest total I�ve seen yet. This program isn�t doing anything but route cash to PSA to� authenticate the plastic holder (we all know what really matters and it ain�t the card). That people want to defend this as �not everything is perfect� tells you there is no real coherent argument for how this makes a lick of sense. The raw card version can be spun, but this is sillier than a purple sticker and clearly does nothing.

But you and I are the heavies for opposing a program aimed at weeding out fraud. LOL.

G1911 · #2 09-01-2022, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But you and I are the heavies for opposing a program aimed at weeding out fraud. LOL.

A program aimed at weeding out fraud would, of course, actually look at the card, the item we are ostensibly buying, and not it�s plastic holder. It�s pretty hard to be a reasonable person and a PSA shill these days, but there is no lack of effort.

This program is great if you own part of PSA. The raw version I disagree with but there is a reasoned argument for. The graded version here is clearly designed to not actually do anything - PSA won�t do any review that would make them have to fulfill their guarantee and pay out on the thousands and thousands of mistakes and frauds they�ve certified and continue to certify.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 09-01-2022, 09:13 PM

It also gives a false sense of security to people who don't read the fine print; the big print is misleading.

G1911 · #4 09-01-2022, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It also gives a false sense of security to people who don't read the fine print; the big print is misleading.

I have very low expectations of people and companies and expect self-serving deceit and corruption. Still, when I first got a card from this program I was a little surprised at just how little it actually says about what they have done. Even here it doesn�t seem common knowledge that they are NOT examining the card at all, and I get why. They have really buried what they are doing.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 09-01-2022, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

I have very low expectations of people and companies and expect self-serving deceit and corruption. Still, when I first got a card from this program I was a little surprised at just how little it actually says about what they have done. Even here it doesn’t seem common knowledge that they are NOT examining the card at all, and I get why. They have really buried what they are doing.

What you get from PSA is actually quite deceptive. Reading from one that came today:

Authentic without a doubt (in bold)

Your CARD (my emphasis) has been meticulously inspected by a team of experts, so you can display it with total confidence.

G1911 · #6 09-01-2022, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What you get from PSA is actually quite deceptive. Reading from one that came today:

Authentic without a doubt (in bold)

Your CARD (my emphasis) has been meticulously inspected by a team of experts, so you can display it with total confidence.

My interpretation is that they covering ass by this phrasing; by certifying the slab is legit that means, of course, the card was inspected by a team (well, 1 it seems) of experts. Of course it SOUNDS like your card was inspected again. It�s not just incomplete, it�s incredibly dishonest without technically being an absolute lie.

I do not always like eBay�s choices, but by and large they have historically been honorable to buyers, with a generous refund policy and other policies designed around protecting buyers. This is absolute bullshit, how they very intentionally are misleading buyers now about what�s actually going on. Even if one likes this program that is just rubber stamping every slab again, they should be against the undeniably dishonest marketing and statements eBay makes about it.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 09-01-2022, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

My interpretation is that they covering ass by this phrasing; by certifying the slab is legit that means, of course, the card was inspected by a team (well, 1 it seems) of experts. Of course it SOUNDS like your card was inspected again. It�s not just incomplete, it�s incredibly dishonest without technically being an absolute lie.

I do not always like eBay�s choices, but by and large they have historically been honorable to buyers, with a generous refund policy and other policies designed around protecting buyers. This is absolute bullshit, how they very intentionally are misleading buyers now about what�s actually going on. Even if one likes this program that is just rubber stamping every slab again, they should be against the undeniably dishonest marketing and statements eBay makes about it.

Yeah, maybe there's some Clintonesque way to make it literally true, but anyone reading it is going to assume it describes what was JUST done in the review and it is 100 percent deceptive unless you go read the fine print. Indeed, it seems tailored to the CSG review, not the PSA.

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