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Old 09-09-2022, 09:37 PM
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1) I don’t agree with banning the shift. That’s strategy. Why take it away?

2) Bigger bases is weird but whatever. I’d be more for tacking on an equal sized base in the out of bounds at first to prevent Manny Machado type nonsense of stepping on fielders feet.

3) I don’t agree with the time clock. I don’t get the obsession with speeding up games. Football games take over four hours and there is about 15 minutes of action yet nobody complains.
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Old 09-09-2022, 10:56 PM
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I’ve watched more baseball this year than any other year and I completely agree with banning the shift. It’s a cancer. I would love to say “hit ‘em where they ain’t “, but the money these guys make for hitting bombs makes that a moot point.

I don’t really care about the clock rule. Seems fine. Same with the base size.
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Old 09-10-2022, 04:36 AM
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The bigger bases reduce injuries by 13% so I'm fine with that.

The pitch clock is a great idea. Pitchers take too long and batters step out after every single pitch to adjust their gloves or scratch their balls or whatever is ridiculous. Players will adapt.

I'm against the shift rule. Teams should be able to play whatever defense they choose.
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Old 09-10-2022, 06:00 AM
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An article for those that haven't read about them.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...it-arent-happy
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Old 09-10-2022, 12:02 PM
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I have talked to some people and I have changed my mind. I do not like the pitching clock. At first I thought no big deal and it can only help.

Then after talking to people i do not like it.

1. Does not give the pitcher potentially enough time to go thru the pitch selection(if A pitcher has large # of good pitches) may not even get to it and now the pitcher is forced to throw something they either do not or one that the catcher might not be ready for(since not communicated)
2. This could cause safety issues (if catcher does not know what is coming) or it can cause the catcher not being set right and not prepared and the ball getting buy or just poor play
3. IF the pitcher is a rookie, new to the team etc, does not allow time for getting on same page
4. Prevent discussion for situation baseball ie runners on base, potential to throw runner out at bases etc
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Old 09-10-2022, 02:42 PM
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I have talked to some people and I have changed my mind. I do not like the pitching clock. At first I thought no big deal and it can only help.

Then after talking to people i do not like it.

1. Does not give the pitcher potentially enough time to go thru the pitch selection(if A pitcher has large # of good pitches) may not even get to it and now the pitcher is forced to throw something they either do not or one that the catcher might not be ready for(since not communicated)
2. This could cause safety issues (if catcher does not know what is coming) or it can cause the catcher not being set right and not prepared and the ball getting buy or just poor play
3. IF the pitcher is a rookie, new to the team etc, does not allow time for getting on same page
4. Prevent discussion for situation baseball ie runners on base, potential to throw runner out at bases etc

I go to minor league games regularly, and they've been using the pitch clock for years now. Seems to not affect the pitchers at all on that level, and the pitch is usually off, long before the pitch clock winds down.

Pitchers actually seem to get in more of a rhythm, knowing what's expected of them. If anything, the batters don't seem to have as much time as they want to dig in sometimes.

Bottom line though, these are all just band-aids. As long as baseball is on commercial television, all these long breaks in between action will continue.

The other thing about minor league games. They rarely drag on, anywhere near as long as their MLB counterparts. Sometimes I wish they'd last longer, so I'd have time to sneak one more beer in before the 7th inning stretch.
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2) Bigger bases is weird but whatever. I’d be more for tacking on an equal sized base in the out of bounds at first to prevent Manny Machado type nonsense of stepping on fielders feet.
It used to be pitchers took care of that sort of thing.

Once players started taking a lesson from soccer, they can't.
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Terry Francona posted his regrets for the ban on shifts...and, as much as I dislike them...the disconnect is that hitters have not, and will never, adjust to those shifts and hit the ball the other way.

Those days are gone bye-bye.


Supposedly, the idea behind these changes is to speed up the game and thereby hoping to add excitement.

Instead, batting averages and on-base percentages will continue to drop at a faster and faster rate.


The NEW Curse of the Bambino:

'Damn the Triples, full PULL ahead!


Why not make second base out of whoopie-cushions? Great for head-first slides.



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