Omnious sign in market?

raulus · #1 09-10-2022, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630

Vintage Centered non-oddball Cobb, Ruth, Jackie, Mantle, and May's higher grades are in no way shape, or form in a bubble. Going Up.

Lower grade and oddballs yup they could be in a bubble.

If the 53T Mays PSA 8 closing tonight with Memory Lane is representative, then it�s definitely way up. Even if it closed at the current price, it would be nearly 7x higher than the last sale price (admittedly pre-pandemic).

And it could still go a lot higher, particularly because Memory Lane leaves their auctions open practically all night.

Lorewalker · #2 09-10-2022, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

If the 53T Mays PSA 8 closing tonight with Memory Lane is representative, then it�s definitely way up. Even if it closed at the current price, it would be nearly 7x higher than the last sale price (admittedly pre-pandemic).

And it could still go a lot higher, particularly because Memory Lane leaves their auctions open practically all night.

Never have bid with them but been told by many that their auctions usually go until 9AM the next day. Seems fishy since there are some incredible offerings auction after auction in other venues and those never have gone past 1 or 2AM.

raulus · #3 09-10-2022, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Never have bid with them but been told by many that their auctions usually go until 9AM the next day. Seems fishy since there are some incredible offerings auction after auction in other venues and those never have gone past 1 or 2AM.

I guess time zones could impact your results here, but my recollection from past auctions is that they often stay open until 6am or 7am eastern.

Snapolit1 · #4 09-10-2022, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

I guess time zones could impact your results here, but my recollection from past auctions is that they often stay open until 6am or 7am eastern.

Really pretty absurd. I don�t know about any of you, but there is exactly a 0% chance I will increase my bid when I am asleep.

Eric72 · #5 09-10-2022, 08:36 PM

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Really pretty absurd. I don�t know about any of you, but there is exactly a 0% chance I will increase my bid when I am asleep.

I take it they don't close lot-by-lot. So, two bidders battling over one random item keeps every lot open, yes?

Snapolit1 · #6 09-10-2022, 08:45 PM

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I take it they don't close lot-by-lot. So, two bidders battling over one random item keeps every lot open, yes?

That�s my understanding.

Eric72 · #7 09-10-2022, 09:00 PM

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That�s my understanding.

I guess that helps the AH, financially speaking. However, I wonder how many bidders they lose because not everyone wants to spend countless hours in extended bidding.

Staying up late is one thing. Waking up the following day to find the auction still going is sheer absurdity.

Shoeless Moe · #8 09-10-2022, 09:09 PM

I look at it like this:

EVERYTHING went up during the pandemic.

Now pandemic is basically over, "many"(but not all) things are coming back down.

So 100% went up.

Now maybe 80% coming back down, but not all the way down.

I've yet to see anything come back down to pre-pandemic pricing. Things shot so high up plenty of room to fell back some, but not falling all the way down, but significant drops from those big highs at the height of the madness.

So again:
About 80% coming down.
20% still getting strong record prices.

My 2 cents.....which was 6 cents 6-9 months ago.

Lorewalker · #9 09-10-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

I guess time zones could impact your results here, but my recollection from past auctions is that they often stay open until 6am or 7am eastern.

Time zone issue or not, no other house has active bidders keeping the auction open from 10PM EST to 7AM the following day, auction after auction. Most end by 3AM EST which by most hobbyists' standards is absurd enough.

raulus · #10 09-10-2022, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Time zone issue or not, no other house has active bidders keeping the auction open from 10PM EST to 7AM the following day, auction after auction. Most end by 3AM EST which by most hobbyists' standards is absurd enough.

Seems like most AHs have moved to item by item closing to avoid that nonsense altogether.

Johnny630 · #11 09-10-2022, 09:58 PM

What Happened to $306,000 last month in REA on an SGC 5 Now a 5 Sells for $146,000 Tonight? Was the other card in REA with 150,000 plus more cause had a little nicer corners and centering maybe but to me, it�s a bridge too far. I think last month was an outlier. There is still hope for us mere mortals who do not own a 311 52 Mickey.

ullmandds · #12 09-10-2022, 10:04 PM

I see an e126 ruth in mem lane in psa 4 almost 80K...some cards are rocketing to the moon...still.

MVSNYC · #13 09-11-2022, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630

What Happened to $306,000 last month in REA on an SGC 5 Now a 5 Sells for $146,000 Tonight? Was the other card in REA with 150,000 plus more cause had a little nicer corners and centering maybe but to me, it�s a bridge too far. I think last month was an outlier. There is still hope for us mere mortals who do not own a 311 52 Mickey.

This difference is very curious to me. Quite glaring. A very similar card, for half the price, just 6 weeks later.

Lorewalker · #14 09-10-2022, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Seems like most AHs have moved to item by item closing to avoid that nonsense altogether.

Yeah it just makes so much more sense for everyone, imo. Not to derail the thread topic but the only thing more controversial than choice of auction ending is a discussion on what is a rookie card and anything political.

sreader3 · #15 09-10-2022, 08:02 PM

In the 2000s prices for generic T206 PSA 6 commons rose steadily from $100 to $200. Then prices went crazy around 2006 and doubled to $400 by late 2007. Pop goes the bubble. Prices sank back to about $200 by 2009. But they never went back to $100.

I expect something similar to happen this time, except due to inflation the floor is probably $300.

raulus · #16 09-10-2022, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sreader3

In the 2000s prices for generic T206 PSA 6 commons rose steadily from $100 to $200. Then prices went crazy around 2006 and doubled to $400 by late 2007. Pop goes the bubble. Prices sank back to about $200 by 2009. But they never went back to $100.

I expect something similar to happen this time, except due to inflation the floor is probably $250-300.

I think all of us still in the acquisition phase would be ticked pink if prices settled back down to about 25-50% higher than pre-pandemic.

sreader3 · #17 09-10-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

I think all of us still in the acquisition phase would be ticked pink if prices settled back down to about 25-50% higher than pre-pandemic.

If that’s your expectation then I think you may be tickled pink.

raulus · #18 09-10-2022, 09:04 PM

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If that�s your expectation then I think you may be tickled pink.

Expectation would be a strong word for it. Hope? Definitely.

My fear is that it will keep raging at or above the current level.

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