OT: The Trevor Bauer Case

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I don't think it was fair to say these charges were tried or tested in court. If there was a trial or hearing of some kind I missed it. I though there was just a decision not to proceed.

There was a four-day hearing on the civil restraining order the accuser requested, including extensive live testimony from the accuser. Bauer's legal team used the hearing as a way to attack the potential criminal charges. According to the Los Angeles Times, the DA decided not to prosecute based in part on the transcripts of the hearing. That is because the defense counsel basically gutted the accuser on the stand. The threshold for granting a restraining order is far lower than beyond a reasonable doubt, and she was not even able to meet that burden. Again, the system worked. We Californians don't allow an accuser a walk-over just because it is a woman alleging harassment or assault. They have to go into the legal system and they will be challenged vigorously unless the accused decides it is better to settle or plead than to fight.

Bob, Bauer isn't going to sue MLB or the Dodgers. The CBA provides the administrative mechanisms for dispute resolution (arbitration). Besides, he has no damages from the team. He has been on MLB paid administrative leave. A team has to pay a player, not play a player. As long as the Dodgers pay the contract he has no remedy against them other than to quit.

[campyfan39]

I think he should sue MLB. There was no presumption of innocence. Being stripped of years in the prime of your career, having your reputation sullied, losing possible endorsements etc. is a big deal. Anyone of us could be accused of something terrible at any time. We have to get back to letting justice take its course.

[Snapolit1]

If he's innocent I cant think of a reason he wouldn't. Has the money to rein fire on them.

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I think he should sue MLB. There was no presumption of innocence. Being stripped of years in the prime of your career, having your reputation sullied, losing possible endorsements etc. is a big deal. Anyone of us could be accused of something terrible at any time. We have to get back to letting justice take its course.

[oldjudge]

As a side issue—why do people put rings in their noses? Can’t be pleasant, especially if you get a cold.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

As a side issue—why do people put rings in their noses? Can’t be pleasant, especially if you get a cold.

LOL

The noses are bad enough, but it's where they put some other piercings/rings as well that would potentially bother me even more.

[rjackson44]

This is a bad cat period

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

This is a bad cat period

And not in a good way! I'm amazed that anyone is still trying to defend him or his actions.The guy is clearly unhinged.

[G1911]

A bad cat should not be held guilty of rape and abuse, in court or by society and reasonable people, if he did not commit in fact commit rape or abuse. One may dislike or hate someone for any or no reason, but we should not let our opinion of a person conflate with what they have actually done. This woman's case fell apart by the evidence contradicting her story. To say that he is not guilty of the crime is not to say he is perfect or great or good, it is to acknowledge the evidence. I think it will be a sad day when we as a people no longer discern guilt from innocence for people we simply don't like. We are well on that path.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Bob, Bauer isn't going to sue MLB or the Dodgers. The CBA provides the administrative mechanisms for dispute resolution (arbitration). Besides, he has no damages from the team. He has been on MLB paid administrative leave. A team has to pay a player, not play a player. As long as the Dodgers pay the contract he has no remedy against them other than to quit.

Definitely agree with you there Adam. If he did, it would likely end his MLB career IMO as I'm not sure any other team would want to take a chance on him and anger the commissioner or other teams in the majors. Kind of like what happened to Kaepernick in football.

But if there was ever a player that had the kind of eccentric behavior and thinking to go against what you would think would be the norm, Bauer is your man. While in Cleveland, he was definitely known as being "different" from your typical person/player. He absolutely marches to the beat of his own, different drum.