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Old 09-28-2022, 06:54 AM
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Wainwright was never dominant enough and his career stats are not particularly impressive. If he retires after this year, it is unlikely he will even get to 200 wins. A career WAR of 47.1 is just not good enough.

There are so many pitchers with career WARs in the 60s that have been passed by the Hall of Fame (for now): Cone, Tiant Rueschel, Kevin Brown. I don't think anyone with a career WAR in the 40s is going to get in any time soon.
Jack Morris just got in with a WAR of 43.5. 195 wins, a much better ERA than Morris and a big part of the Cards success through the years. Very unlikely by the writers, but a pretty typical Veterans selection.
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Jack Morris just got in with a WAR of 43.5. 195 wins, a much better ERA than Morris and a big part of the Cards success through the years. Very unlikely by the writers, but a pretty typical Veterans selection.
Jack Morris, along with a good chunk of the Veterans Committee selections, do not belong in the Hall of Fame. At this point, we've jumped the shark however, so it would not surprise me if Waino ended up in the Hall.

Baines, Maranville, Mazeroski, Rick Ferrell, Joe Gordon, plus all of the friends of Frankie Frisch that he pushed through once he started to head the Committee in 1967.
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Jack Morris at least had his winningest pitcher of the 80s claim (up to the individual how important wins are). I don’t think Wainwright has a similar legend.
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While he's had an excellent career, I'd say no to the HoF for him.

With that said, I anticipate that in the not too distant future, if it hasn't already started, there is going to be a shift in how starting pitchers are evaluated for the HoF. They are certainly used a lot more differently than they were even 10-20 years ago.
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I think deGrom will be that barometer.
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well if he would of been a closer he would been in the Hall for the number of seasons he pitched...much easier to be a closer... its not like he didnt pitch more innings than a closer...
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