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Old 10-15-2022, 08:34 PM
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Incredible gesture Leon, but I don't feel it is warranted. You offer users a great board at no cost to exchange thoughts and find great cards. You don't take a cut of any of the sales conducted on the site. I just don't see why (other than pure benevolence) you would be responsible in any way to step in here. Far be it from me to tell a man what to do with his money, but you have already gone above and beyond by maintaining this site.
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Incredible gesture Leon, but I don't feel it is warranted. You offer users a great board at no cost to exchange thoughts and find great cards. You don't take a cut of any of the sales conducted on the site. I just don't see why (other than pure benevolence) you would be responsible in any way to step in here. Far be it from me to tell a man what to do with his money, but you have already gone above and beyond by maintaining this site.
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Old 10-15-2022, 10:32 PM
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What if the guarantee only occurs if the scammed had checked with Leon in advance, so that adds that second level of comfort? If Leon thinks the seller is good and it still happens the the “program” is triggered.
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Old 10-15-2022, 10:56 PM
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What if the guarantee only occurs if the scammed had checked with Leon in advance, so that adds that second level of comfort? If Leon thinks the seller is good and it still happens the the “program” is triggered.
Today and back 5 years. I feel the stickies offer at least some warning going forward and they are there now.

I appreciate the kind words. I never thought this was necessarily my fault, but it's my forum , so everything is my fault lol. It's something I want to do. I hope to receive some PMs soon.
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Gi'day, mate, I would trade with people I know from here. No way I would trade with someone I didn't know.
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Old 10-16-2022, 09:07 PM
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Today and back 5 years. I feel the stickies offer at least some warning going forward and they are there now.

I appreciate the kind words. I never thought this was necessarily my fault, but it's my forum , so everything is my fault lol. It's something I want to do. I hope to receive some PMs soon.
Leon:

I would assume most if not all of scammers are newbies?

Is there some way to add to everyone's ID when they post, something like " A Net 54 member since 2017" for example? That would alert guys to new sellers on BST to either avoid or check with you first before sending any $$?

Or someway you could add a red star or something to everyone's ID that you would "pre-certify" as trustworthy"? Or some similar idea that would work?
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Old 10-17-2022, 08:28 PM
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I would assume most if not all of scammers are newbies?



Is there some way to add to everyone's ID when they post, something like " A Net 54 member since 2017" for example? That would alert guys to new sellers on BST to either avoid or check with you first before sending any $$?



Or someway you could add a red star or something to everyone's ID that you would "pre-certify" as trustworthy"? Or some similar idea that would work?
Click on their ID and you can see their info page. It shows when they've joined and how many posts they've had.

And more importantly, if you are buying something from somebody you don't know, send them a private message and ask them for references. And then send a PM to those references and ask if the seller is legit.



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Old 10-16-2022, 02:23 AM
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Incredible gesture Leon, but I don't feel it is warranted. You offer users a great board at no cost to exchange thoughts and find great cards. You don't take a cut of any of the sales conducted on the site. I just don't see why (other than pure benevolence) you would be responsible in any way to step in here. Far be it from me to tell a man what to do with his money, but you have already gone above and beyond by maintaining this site.

Completely agree. Leon - you are very generous.

That said, it isn’t clear how this act of generosity will change anything.

Long-time users of this website already think very highly of you and love this site.

Scammers will still exploit the B/S/T section’s openness if there isn’t any gating/eligibility requirements/fee to use it.


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Old 10-16-2022, 03:10 AM
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Incredible gesture Leon, but I don't feel it is warranted. You offer users a great board at no cost to exchange thoughts and find great cards. You don't take a cut of any of the sales conducted on the site. I just don't see why (other than pure benevolence) you would be responsible in any way to step in here. Far be it from me to tell a man what to do with his money, but you have already gone above and beyond by maintaining this site.
+1

I’ll also add, if I had been scammed, which thankfully I haven’t. I would never ask you for any compensation, I truly believe in being accountable for my own actions. I’m definitely triggered by people that can’t admit their own mistakes and need to find someone else to blame. Somehow you shouldering part of the blame is, well as my 16 yr old son might say, “whack.” Anyway, thank you for trying to be accountable for everything that happens on this fantastic forum, but these scamming assholes are not due to any fault of yours or the framework of the forum.

I’m thankful to be a very small part of this community. Thank you for allowing me to poke my head around here every so often, it’s truly a great place that you’ve created.

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TREMENDOUS offering on your part, Leon! No wonder Net 54 is such a GREAT Forum to be a member of!!
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Old 10-16-2022, 05:31 AM
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Very generous Leon. Just when I start to think the world sucks, the good people fight back.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:06 AM
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I’ll also add, if I had been scammed, which thankfully I haven’t. I would never ask you for any compensation, I truly believe in being accountable for my own actions. I’m definitely triggered by people that can’t admit their own mistakes and need to find someone else to blame. Somehow you shouldering part of the blame is, well as my 16 yr old son might say, “whack.” Anyway, thank you for trying to be accountable for everything that happens on this fantastic forum, but these scamming assholes are not due to any fault of yours or the framework of the forum.

I’m thankful to be a very small part of this community. Thank you for allowing me to poke my head around here every so often, it’s truly a great place that you’ve created.

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+1 I grew up in a world where one was accountable for their own actions. This is a great place that you have created and I appreciate all you do for us. This is one more example of that and I hope you don't get any PM's and people acknowledge their own mistakes.

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Old 10-16-2022, 08:27 AM
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+1 I grew up in a world where one was accountable for their own actions. This is a great place that you have created and I appreciate all you do for us. This is one more example of that and I hope you don't get any PM's and people acknowledge their own mistakes.

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Amazing gesture Leon. Thank you for providing this forum and everything you do to run it with such integrity.
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Amazing gesture Leon. Thank you for providing this forum and everything you do to run it with such integrity.
Agreed. Another Thank You.
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Incredible gesture Leon, but I don't feel it is warranted. You offer users a great board at no cost to exchange thoughts and find great cards. You don't take a cut of any of the sales conducted on the site. I just don't see why (other than pure benevolence) you would be responsible in any way to step in here. Far be it from me to tell a man what to do with his money, but you have already gone above and beyond by maintaining this site.
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I also agree with those who say, had they been scammed, they would not ask for reimbursement. The first rule if BST is Caveat Emptor.
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I also agree with those who say, had they been scammed, they would not ask for reimbursement. The first rule if BST is Caveat Emptor.
Agree. NO one ever asked., They all took full responsibility. That's not the point.
And I agree with most of the thoughts in this thread. The offer to reimburse, a small part, is because I feel a sense of responsibility, like it or not. For some money, resources and pain the security issue could probably be taken care of. Not one person has PM'd me and no one has ever asked for any monetary remuneration. Everyone took responsibility for themselves when it happened. Every single one.
That said, if I can lessen that bad experience just a little bit, it would make ME feel better. If any of ya'll owned a site, that has monetization, you might feel the same way. It would make me happy if I get some PMs. That's all I will say about it, other than it's my pleasure to help run and manage the site. For those that remember, a little under 2 decades ago, there was no monetization. Being a type card collector, I felt I could participate in a lot of threads. I just wanted to do it because I love collecting these old baseball cards. around a year and half later I thought banners might be a good idea.

Thanks again for the kind words, but it's truly my pleasure.
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Fortunately, no problems here. I am totally impressed with your unselfish gesture and commitment to net54baseball.
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Thank you for everything you do, Leon. Always appreciated. Another reason this forum and community is so great.
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Incredible gesture Leon, but I don't feel it is warranted. You offer users a great board at no cost to exchange thoughts and find great cards. You don't take a cut of any of the sales conducted on the site. I just don't see why (other than pure benevolence) you would be responsible in any way to step in here. Far be it from me to tell a man what to do with his money, but you have already gone above and beyond by maintaining this site.
+1 I've had nothing but positive experiences in BST but that's a very kind gesture Leon.
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