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[campyfan39]

As a Dodger fan I find it hard to cheer for them with Roberts as manager. He messes incessantly with the line ups, takes out hot pitchers because of analytics, etc.

I mean how many times can you have the "best" roster and lose until you get called on it?

I'd like to see the Phillis win it all now. Padres are too "look at me" for my taste, especially with Soto.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

As a Dodger fan I find it hard to cheer for them with Roberts as manager. He messes incessantly with the line ups, takes out hot pitchers because of analytics, etc.

I mean how many times can you have the "best" roster and lose until you get called on it?

I'd like to see the Phillis win it all now. Padres are too "look at me" for my taste, especially with Soto.

Two things are guaranteed in almost every Dodger post season. Roberts will overmanage, and Kershaw will get shelled.

[G1911]

Olbermann was back on Sports Center just a couple years ago after giving up on his resistance programming. He’s “still” alive…


I am not for or against any team these days, but Dave Roberts is a terrible manager and watching Dodgers games, laden with great talent, can be frustrating as a result.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Olbermann was back on Sports Center just a couple years ago after giving up on his resistance programming. He’s “still” alive…


I am not for or against any team these days, but Dave Roberts is a terrible manager and watching Dodgers games, laden with great talent, can be frustrating as a result.

Is it possible Roberts is just following orders from the booth that is running real time analytics?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is it possible Roberts is just following orders from the booth that is running real time analytics?

As teams have edged out most managers that like to actually manage by the conventional sense of the term in Baseball, I think most teams are essentially doing this, the manager is now more a manager of people than an actual manager of strategy, with the analytics departments picking how things will be done. They may not be micro-managing every individual change, but seem to be the ones setting the circumstances under which a manager is to do so.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

As teams have edged out most managers that like to actually manage by the conventional sense of the term in Baseball, I think most teams are essentially doing this, the manager is now more a manager of people than an actual manager of strategy, with the analytics departments picking how things will be done. They may not be micro-managing every individual change, but seem to be the ones setting the circumstances under which a manager is to do so.

Maybe over 162 games that pays off. In a shot series no thank you. If Max Scherzer is in total command after 4 innings, every computer on earth could tell me to pull him in in favor of the no name middle reliever, and I would absolutely ignore that. A computer can't see command.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe over 162 games that pays off. In a shot series no thank you. If Max Scherzer is in total command after 4 innings, every computer on earth could tell me to pull him in in favor of the no name middle reliever, and I would absolutely ignore that. A computer can't see command.

To what extent is there also a psychological element in play when it comes to the opposing hitters?

If you pull a starter that has shut down the other team and left the other team completely bereft of all hope, does that give them a boost psychologically, thinking that now maybe they have a real chance to do some damage now that the starter who so thoroughly dominated them is out of the game?

I'm no psychologist, but I've often hypothesized at this possibility.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe over 162 games that pays off. In a shot series no thank you. If Max Scherzer is in total command after 4 innings, every computer on earth could tell me to pull him in in favor of the no name middle reliever, and I would absolutely ignore that. A computer can't see command.

I have no doubt that, on average, after 6 innings putting in a fresh pitcher is more likely to help your team win over the course of a season with a large sample size.

I have serious doubts that, after 6 innings, pulling a star pitcher who is still doing well and putting in a rando will help your team win over the course of a season with a large sample size.

On a game by game basis, it is a stupid thing to do without factoring in the specifics of that day and how the pitchers 'feel' as teams keep finding in the playoffs.

[ALR-bishop]

[QUOTE=G1911;2274060]Olbermann was back on Sports Center just a couple years ago after giving up on his resistance programming. He’s “still” alive…

No political commentary intended

[G1911]

[QUOTE=ALR-bishop;2274595]

Originally Posted by G1911

Olbermann was back on Sports Center just a couple years ago after giving up on his resistance programming. He’s “still” alive…

No political commentary intended

Not even one of his 2002 Topps 206 cards?