Cello Pack Fake?

GasHouseGang · #1 10-19-2022, 11:56 AM

I think the fact that they had so many others made me think they probably created them all themselves on a computer.

NiceDocter · #2 10-19-2022, 02:35 PM

Waiting on the 1952 Topps High number cello packs before I get excited.....

ALR-bishop · #3 10-19-2022, 02:49 PM

Murphy's original Christmas pack "find" did not include any 52s. He offered 53 to 63. The 52s showed up later as did post 63s. Now you can find them up through the 70s and some mixed. For me it would be interesting to know who first created them and when, and if they were really ever sold at retail anywhere

They are obviously still be cranked out today but by the same person or group of persons ? A different person or group ? Or multiple people and groups.

stlcardsfan · #4 10-20-2022, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter

Waiting on the 1952 Topps High number cello packs before I get excited.....

There was a seller on EBay years ago that sold Xmas rack packs. He had a long dissertation about how his were legit. In his �about me� tab he had a 52 rack pack with a Mathews showing on back. Real or not I don�t know. It was not for sale but the ones he did sell went for big $$$$.

GasHouseGang · #5 10-20-2022, 05:20 PM

I saw this Xmas pack. It appears to have a fake Mantle. Not sure about the other cards.

BobC · #6 10-20-2022, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I saw this Xmas pack. It appears to have a fake Mantle. Not sure about the other cards.

I'd picked up one of those Christmas Packs years ago, really cheap, just to have one as a sort of fantasy piece. Mine is all 1968 Topps cards, but no stars or HOFers showing. The packaging is exactly the same, colors and images, as on that 1952 Christmas pack, and is also exactly the same on every other one of these I ever remember seeing, regardless of the year the cards are from. The cards are real, and generally looked to be in pretty nice shape, just a re-pack of Topps cards by someone other than Topps. That '52 Mantle in the Christmas Pack you're showing can't be real though, right? By the time whoever started putting these re-packs together began doing this, I have to believe that a real '52 Mantle would have already been too valuable by that time for them to have intentionally included a real one.

irv · #7 10-20-2022, 09:01 PM

Looks like some of these are now being graded so some still believe these are real factory sealed packs I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlmqRP6-HDM

steve B · #8 10-21-2022, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by irv

Looks like some of these are now being graded so some still believe these are real factory sealed packs I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlmqRP6-HDM

The flip said XRPG... not a company I've ever heard of.

Those christmas packs are strange, I bought one that was a 58, because it had a high number on the back. Back then it was only about as much as the cards inside would be if they were all commons.

Of the newer "cellos", I think the ones with the modern cards might be from a small repacker, as the cardboard top looks like it was printed by a print shop.
The others really do look like they were just done on a computer printer.

One of the flea markets I went to used to have a dealer that would repack commons and the occasional minor star into "packs" mostly using the larger team set penny sleeves that had a resealable tab. He made his own header cards, which were always on the back and not good enough to fool anyone. Always a minor star or red sox card on top, and the rest commons.

JustinD · #9 10-26-2022, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by irv

Looks like some of these are now being graded so some still believe these are real factory sealed packs I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlmqRP6-HDM

Just as Steve said, fake grader and fake pack.

I am in the camp that not a one of these is real and with no even hearsay that these were ever seen in a discount store, I think the repack story is hooey. I think every single one is garbage.

This myth has been going on since the early 80's when I first saw some show up on the tables at shows of the same folks that did Sharpie touch ups on their 71's and hustled like crazy. Why would these not even be seen in the 60's or early 70's by anyone if they were a 50's product?

Run for the hills on any of this repack junk unless you enjoy paying hundreds for a few stacks of EX-commons.

jingram058 · #10 10-21-2022, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I saw this Xmas pack. It appears to have a fake Mantle. Not sure about the other cards.

Guaranteed fake Mantle, if not the whole thing. If it's a real Mantle, that is one of the all-time finds in the history of card collecting.

ALR-bishop · #11 10-21-2022, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jingram058

Guaranteed fake Mantle, if not the whole thing. If it's a real Mantle, that is one of the all-time finds in the history of card collecting.

There was a spoof story sometime back, I think in the Onion, about authorities finding a recluse guy dead of suicide in his home in Nigeria. The home was full of money and a suicide note indicated the guy had been trying for years to give his money away by sending emails and making phone calls to strangers. But no one would believe him or take his money

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