Exit velocity vs distance

BobC · #1 10-19-2022, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Perhaps that will become a new metric: How much faster exit velocity is than the entrance velocity (pitch).

Hitting a 75 mph curveball 100 MPH may be more impressive than hitting a 100 MPH fastball 110 MPH.

Based on Newton's 3rd Law, that's apparently not even a question, but more of an absolute truth. Helps explain how smaller guys, like a Jose Ramirez, can hit out a fair amount of homers. But put someone Ramirez's size in a slo-pitch softball game, and home runs don't come so easy or often, if at all. Virtually all the force/energy has to be generated by the batter in softball. Not the case in baseball. LOL

packs · #2 10-19-2022, 05:23 PM

Exit velocity just seems like a dumb stat because it’s only discussed when someone hits a home run. I’m sure there are balls hit into the ground at over a hundred miles an hour all the time. It just seems try hard to me and like the art of conversation is being lost. Analysts don’t know how to talk about power any other way anymore.

One thing I like about David Cone is his ability to use both metrics and his personality to talk about baseball. Too often it’s someone reading a string of numbers in place of any insight.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 10-19-2022, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BobC

Based on Newton's 3rd Law, that's apparently not even a question, but more of an absolute truth. Helps explain how smaller guys, like a Jose Ramirez, can hit out a fair amount of homers. But put someone Ramirez's size in a slo-pitch softball game, and home runs don't come so easy or often, if at all. Virtually all the force/energy has to be generated by the batter in softball. Not the case in baseball. LOL

I've never understood the physics. It seems to me it would take more force to make an object coming at you change direction than to hit it from a stationary place where it has no momentum that has to be overcome. I know that's wrong but not sure why.

BobC · #4 10-19-2022, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I've never understood the physics. It seems to me it would take more force to make an object coming at you change direction than to hit it from a stationary place where it has no momentum that has to be overcome. I know that's wrong but not sure why.

Can't explain it either, but it is part of physics.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 10-19-2022, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BobC

Can't explain it either, but it is part of physics.

If you think about it, if you threw a ball against a stationary bat the ball would bounce back at you, which is inconsistent with the way I am conceptualizing it.

packs · #6 10-20-2022, 02:36 AM

Next they�ll be talking about swing velocity on strike outs and mocking up theoretical trajectories for IF the batter had hit the ball at different angles. All of which the commentators find more interesting than the actual game.

timzcardz · #7 10-20-2022, 07:32 AM

Interesting Newtonian fact . . . the exit velocity of the apple from the tree was zero, and yet it travelled all the way to the ground!

BobC · #8 10-20-2022, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by timzcardz

Interesting Newtonian fact . . . the exit velocity of the apple from the tree was zero, and yet it travelled all the way to the ground!

That's gravity! LOL

Peter_Spaeth · #9 10-20-2022, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

Next they�ll be talking about swing velocity on strike outs and mocking up theoretical trajectories for IF the batter had hit the ball at different angles. All of which the commentators find more interesting than the actual game.

Soto just missed a home run by one degree of launch angle!!

BobC · #10 10-20-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

Next they�ll be talking about swing velocity on strike outs and mocking up theoretical trajectories for IF the batter had hit the ball at different angles. All of which the commentators find more interesting than the actual game.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't go giving them any more ideas.

frankbmd · #11 10-20-2022, 12:06 PM

If the right foot velocity is greater than the left foot velocity, it is easy to run the bases with three left turns.

steve B · #12 10-20-2022, 12:11 PM

I like it better than the articles I've seen more of recently.

player x does something never seen in baseball!

And what they reveal is something like player x hit 3-2 pitches foul on four consecutive at bats on a Thursday after 6PM.

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