Taking money out of retirement funds to purchase cards

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Fair points, Jeff. i am particularly hostile to Wall Street but i see little else out there. All assets have their ups and downs, pros and cons.

To be fair, I have no doubt that the game is rigged and try to proceed accordingly. I once told a financial planner friend that a stockbroker is one of only two professions that get paid on the way in and on the way out. He didn't disagree.

[Seven]

My biggest issue with doing this is that I would not want to sell a card. Especially if I grew an emotional attachment to it. Most of my collection, I do not look at as investments.

[Republicaninmass]

Retirement funds could be savings, which is only paying a max of 2.3% YMMV. I could see using a small portion of savings to buy a few cards, rather than staring at number in a screen. The hobby has been a place of camaraderie for decades, as well as a magic carpet as Burdick wrote. You cant put a price on that!

This thread has morphed from "retirement funds" to major stocks, indexes, 401ks, and the like. I see there caveats and pitfalls of all. In cards, like anything else

Be greedy when others are fearful. Be fearful when others are greedy. Where say you, are we on that scale?

When the shoeshine boy is giving tips to buy prewar HOFers...

[BobC]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

To be fair, I have no doubt that the game is rigged and try to proceed accordingly. I once told a financial planner friend that a stockbroker is one of only two professions that get paid on the way in and on the way out. He didn't disagree.

You have that right Jeff. The system is somewhat rigged against the average normal person. From companies and people that seek out where Wall Street and stock exchanges put their computers and servers, so they can place their own computers and servers just across the street to try and get trading info and price updates mere milliseconds before everyone else, to investment firms acting as underwriters and handling IPOs and letting their stockbrokers selectively pick and choose which favored customers and clients to initially offer such shares to. Even when you decide to purchase (or sell) a stock, remember, that order is not instantaneously executed, and is potentially subject to various decisions and options by brokers, third market makers, and others that may be involved in the process, and also making money off your transaction as well. And whether you place market orders or limit orders can have a great impact on this process. Though the SEC has rules and laws in place to provide more transparency and try and ensure brokers and others are always giving customers the best executions possible of their stock orders, there are still ways for brokers and others involved to work the system to their advantage, sometimes over that of their customers.

By the way, what is the other profession........doctors? On some level then I guess you could also possibly include Auction Houses that charge seller's commissions AND buyer's premiums.

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by BobC

By the way, what is the other profession........doctors? On some level then I guess you could also possibly include Auction Houses that charge seller's commissions AND buyer's premiums.

Prostitutes.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Prostitutes.

The way in and the way out!

[BobC]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Prostitutes.

LOL

Good one!

You got it, you sell it, you still got it. What a business!

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BobC

LOL

Good one!

You got it, you sell it, you still got it. What a business!

I mean…not that I have any experience in such matters, but it does seem like there would be a degradation factor over time…

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by raulus

I mean…not that I have any experience in such matters, but it does seem like there would be a degradation factor over time…

You are talking to BobC, our resident tax expert. The correct term is depreciation.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

You are talking to BobC, our resident tax expert. The correct term is depreciation.

Jeff,

Nic/raulus is also a CPA, and knows his stuff. But that is funny when you through the depreciation factor in there. Good one.