ebay's authentication service - looking at more than just authenticity

swarmee · #1 10-28-2022, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus

I also recently sold 2 PSA graded cards on eBay in 2 separate transactions, within 24 hours of one another. One for $3k, and another for $1.95k. The one for $1.95k was a tallboy case, and went to the authenticator. The one for $3k was a jumbo case, and didn't go to the authenticator. Not sure if the size made a difference, or if there were other features that caused one to go through the authentication process, and the other to skip it.

Was the buyer for the one that didn't go through authentication either international or used a P.O. Box for shipping address? I believe neither of those will trigger authenticity check.

So if anyone feels strongly about opting out of this process and you buy enough, I guess you could get a PO Box and have AG purchases shipped there instead.

raulus · #2 10-28-2022, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by swarmee

Was the buyer for the one that didn't go through authentication either international or used a P.O. Box for shipping address? I believe neither of those will trigger authenticity check.

So if anyone feels strongly about opting out of this process and you buy enough, I guess you could get a PO Box and have AG purchases shipped there instead.

Turns out both addresses were domestic, and neither was a PO Box. So that wouldn�t explain the difference either.

John V · #3 10-28-2022, 07:54 AM

How does the authentication process impact seller (or buyer) fees, if at all?

trdcrdkid · #4 10-28-2022, 10:01 AM

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How does the authentication process impact seller (or buyer) fees, if at all?

Right now it doesn't, but eventually they're going to start charging for it.

Gorditadogg · #5 10-28-2022, 01:23 PM

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Right now it doesn't, but eventually they're going to start charging for it.

Or not.

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raulus · #6 10-29-2022, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Or not.

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We�ll definitely see. I think the wording on their website suggests that they don�t currently charge for it, which seems to suggest that they might charge for it later.

Given that sellers already pay about 16% for selling fees and payment processing, it would be nice to avoid paying more.

D. Bergin · #7 10-29-2022, 11:56 AM

I believe they started charging for the "Sneaker Authentication", which apparently was free for a while.

Ebay doesn't do anything unless it eventually leads to them getting a bigger piece of the transaction pie.

EddieP · #8 10-28-2022, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Turns out both addresses were domestic, and neither was a PO Box. So that wouldn’t explain the difference either.

There are several ways a seller can bypass the Authenticity Guarantee. The most well-known one is putting “ Set Break” in the title. Other ways are: 1) Cards ( plural) is in the title,2) “ Free Local Pick up” is offered, 3) Signed cards are exempted ( this also occurs if Signature is marked yes/original in the detailed description even if the card isn’t signed, 4) it also has to be sold under Sports Cards ( e.g. if you sell an Exhibit under Post Cards it won’t go through the Authenticity program).

It would be helpful if you show us the Titles ( or some fascimile of them) to find out why it didn’t go through the process.

The below won’t go through because it has “Sets” in the title and algorithm reads it as Multiple cards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39430471677...Bk9SR8zGr_CDYQ

Whereas, this one doesn’t have “ Sets” in the title and it’ll be authenticated

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19541297223...3ABFBMvsbO8INh

raulus · #9 10-29-2022, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieP

There are several ways a seller can bypass the Authenticity Guarantee. The most well-known one is putting � Set Break� in the title. Other ways are: 1) Cards ( plural) is in the title,2) � Free Local Pick up� is offered, 3) Signed cards are exempted ( this also occurs if Signature is marked yes/original in the detailed description even if the card isn�t signed, 4) it also has to be sold under Sports Cards ( e.g. if you sell an Exhibit under Post Cards it won�t go through the Authenticity program).

It would be helpful if you show us the Titles ( or some fascimile of them) to find out why it didn�t go through the process.

The below won�t go through because it has �Sets� in the title and algorithm reads it as Multiple cards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39430471677...Bk9SR8zGr_CDYQ

Whereas, this one doesn�t have � Sets� in the title and it�ll be authenticated

https://www.ebay.com/itm/19541297223...3ABFBMvsbO8INh

It�s possible that I checked a box or used a word somewhere in my listing that inadvertently resulted in the authenticity process being inapplicable.

But if you want to dig in further, here�s the first listing that went to PSA for authenticity confirmation:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13377172387...mis&media=COPY

And here�s the second that went straight to the buyer:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13420181499...mis&media=COPY

EddieP · #10 10-29-2022, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

It�s possible that I checked a box or used a word somewhere in my listing that inadvertently resulted in the authenticity process being inapplicable.

But if you want to dig in further, here�s the first listing that went to PSA for authenticity confirmation:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13377172387...mis&media=COPY

And here�s the second that went straight to the buyer:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13420181499...mis&media=COPY

The 2nd listing has the word �Pack� and that throws off the algorithm to believe there are multiple cards involved.

raulus · #11 10-29-2022, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieP

The 2nd listing has the word �Pack� and that throws off the algorithm to believe there are multiple cards involved.

Interesting. I guess the name of the piece having the word �pack� was all it took to fool the process. In spite of the fact that there was no pack involved!

raulus · #12 10-29-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus

Interesting. I guess the name of the piece having the word �pack� was all it took to fool the process. In spite of the fact that there was no pack involved!

I guess if someone includes �pack fresh!� In their listing, then they get a similar result?

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