Some of the mysteries and myths surrounding the most famous card in the hobby.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Folks, I will reiterate......

" My research indicates that the original uncut sheet that these two cards were printed on was originally discovered in Long Island, NY (Suffolk County).
Several other T206 Wagner cards have also been discovered in this part of L.I., NY ."
However, eventually, this particular sheet ended-up (or I should say down) in Florida.

TED Z

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And this is what I'm talking about with the mysteries and myths surrounding the card. Are you saying it was discovered in Long Island then somehow ended up in Florida where it was then brought back to Long Island and cut up?

You keep ,posting that your research indicates that it was originally discovered on Long Island but you're not showing or saying where that information came from.

Here's the claim that I've seen about it's origin

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Pat R

And this is what I'm talking about with the mysteries and myths surrounding the card. Are you saying it was discovered in Long Island then somehow ended up in Florida where it was then brought back to Long Island and cut up?

You keep ,posting that your research indicates that it was originally discovered on Long Island but you're not showing or saying where that information came from.

Here's the claim that I've seen about it's origin

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Maybe it had a homing instinct.

But just to clarify, remind me, who allegedly cut the card from the sheet? And who owned the single when Mastro bought it?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe it had a homing instinct.

But just to clarify, remind me, who allegedly cut the card from the sheet? And who owned the single when Mastro bought it?

Allegedly Ray and Sevchuk cut up the sheet before Mastro purchased the Wagner and the other cards that was on it from them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Allegedly Ray and Sevchuk cut up the sheet before Mastro purchased the Wagner and the other cards that was on it from them.

OK that makes sense; it was Ray I believe who supplied the controversial "before" picture that was published in the Daily News.

[tedzan]

If you are quoting excerpts from "The Card", be careful, because there are inaccuracies in it. For example, starting with this excerpt on Page #33.....

"The cards were printed at seven factories in New York, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina. The factory where each card was made was stamped on the back."



These T206's were printed (produced) in New York City by the AMERICAN LITHOGRAPHIC COMPANY (ALC) beginning in 1909....and continued thru to 1919 (T213-3).

ALC would package up these cards and ship them via rail to the various Tobacco Factories to be inserted in their Cigarette packs.

The Tobacco Factories' machinery (and employees) were set up ONLY for producing Tobacco products. They did not have the capability to do the printing.

There are some other such inaccuracies. But, I do not have the time to go into them, now.

TED Z

T206 Reference
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[G1911]

Originally Posted by tedzan

If you are quoting excerpts from "The Card", be careful, because there are inaccuracies in it. For example, starting with this excerpt on Page #33.....

"The cards were printed at seven factories in New York, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina. The factory where each card was made was stamped on the back."



These T206's were printed (produced) in New York City by the AMERICAN LITHOGRAPHIC COMPANY (ALC) beginning in 1909....and continued thru to 1919 (T213-3).

ALC would package up these cards and ship them via rail to the various Tobacco Factories to be inserted in their Cigarette packs.

The Tobacco Factories' machinery (and employees) were set up ONLY for producing Tobacco products. They did not have the capability to do printing.

There are some other such inaccuracies. But, I do not have the time to go into them, now.

TED Z

T206 Reference
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Can you give a source or evidence for the claim in question?

[tedzan]

Can you be specific as to what claim you are referring to?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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