Show...me...your print variations!

[ALR-bishop]

There must be an interesting story behind that accumulation

[Tedwilliams1918]

https://vintagebaseballcardvariation...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

[ALR-bishop]

The Mantle back defect is shared with 6 or 7 other cards in the 58 set which were on the same sheet. See post 2334 above. There is also a recurring print defect on the front of the 58 Mantle if you are interested.

Thanks for posting your list. I see some stuff I am not familiar with. Have you been all through this thread ?


By the way, welcome aboard

[Tedwilliams1918]

What’s the print defect/error on the front of 1958 mantle?

[Tedwilliams1918]

1966 Ron santo league spelled leagu

[butchie_t]

Nick, if you have not done this yet. Please take the time to read this entire thread. There is a wealth of goodness throughout the thread. Many, many examples are listed within it.

Cheers,

Butch

[ALR-bishop]

Ted ( is that your first name ?)-this is the scarce but recurring print defect on the front of the 58 Mantle.

Butch is right that if you have the time and inclination going through this thread is an adventure for any serious variant collector. You will find many of the cards on your list and others for those same years

[Tedwilliams1918]

If any of you guys are on Facebook I have a group to join vintage errors variations and master set builders

[Tedwilliams1918]

I still find that the 1958 mantle will become a huge card in the hobby based on how rare it is 1 day

[Tedwilliams1918]

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[Tedwilliams1918]

I used to hoard these 2 cards like crazy, but have since sold off almost all of them pictured except 7 I think

[ALR-bishop]

That is quite a stash of the Williams and Robinson variations. There is a 55 variation of the Wehmeier card like the Williams.

There is a transition card for the 59 Grammas where the black blob is partially gone.

Hope you are right about the 58 Mantle but am skeptical

[Tedwilliams1918]

Yep, I have 2 wehmeiers with no dot clipped logo asterisk….

Also for 1955 topps removed one of duke sniders dots

And for 1954 topps removed one of duke sniders dots

People have already offered me 3x 4x what I have paid for some of my mantles they are very hard to obtain compared to partial diamond or no dots teds….why I sold most of those off and kept the ones I couldn’t bare to part with

[Tedwilliams1918]

Of all the topps removed dots cards my absolute favorite is ted Williams…that Topps actually looked at it and said those dots are in the wrong spot….but Ted had always said when I was younger I put my dots in the wrong spot to throw off clubhouse signatures……unfortunately there’s enough out there that no premium is added unless Psa ever recognizes it

[Tedwilliams1918]

Cliff those are really cool they are a prime example of too much water in the ink….. same as my 1966 mantle and 1958 Aaron both posted above…..when ever I see drastic versions of these I buy them!

Also my 1958 obrien pictured too!

[ALR-bishop]

59 Grammas transition

[Tedwilliams1918]

You have all 3!….so you have 1959 Casey wise white mohawk too?

[ALR-bishop]

Yes, and there is a back defect as well. Do you have scans of your 52 Kell, yellow line outside stars, and the 53 Mizell with runs obscured on back

[ALR-bishop]

Wise back

[Tedwilliams1918]

https://youtu.be/B-T9FIrQ4r0

[Tedwilliams1918]

You can dismiss kell as print plate alignment issue
And ashburn as another print bleed

[ALR-bishop]

Thanks. When hit the Mizell link I first thought I was just getting a tutorial on the IRA

[G1911]

I did not know about the Mizell. Good stuff

[Northviewcats]

I am familiar with the Milton Bradley back color variation on game cards between 7-195, but did Topps also use different color stock on higher numbers?

I appreciate any comments.

Thanks,

Joe

[ALR-bishop]

Yes, lots of back color differences in 68 and as a result you need to know the MB checklist because some sellers mistakenly offer non MB cards for sale as MBs based on back colors alone.

Greg is our resident back stock/ color difference guy

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Northviewcats

I am familiar with the Milton Bradley back color variation on game cards between 7-195, but did Topps also use different color stock on higher numbers?

I appreciate any comments.

Thanks,

Joe

Yes, they did. The same stark difference in color when looking at a bunch of backs that you see when MBs appear in groups of low number cards.

[ALR-bishop]

Another resident expert

[Tedwilliams1918]

Here’s another discovery of mine but something tells me you guys are already ahead of me and know of this card

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918

Here’s another discovery of mine but something tells me you guys are already ahead of me and know of this card

New one on me, but COMC acknowledges it.

[ALR-bishop]

Good one Ted, but you just violated Shane's recently promulgated law

[G1911]

I would like to take this moment to apologize to Shane for my past behavior and conduct in discussing variations on cards of players who played for the Cardinals. It is with a heavy heart and great regret for my past conduct that I stand here today, taking responsibility for my cruel and thoughtless actions. Not only did I participate in discussions about variants on Cardinals cards, I went even further into transgression and occasionally shared a new one. I hope that I may some day be forgiven, if not in my time on Earth, then in the next life, but forgiveness is not needed for me to take ownership and admit to the shameful sin I have committed. It will never, ever happen again, maybe. Shane, definitely don’t look at post #2,397.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by G1911

I would like to take this moment to apologize to Shane for my past behavior and conduct in discussing variations on cards of players who played for the Cardinals. It is with a heavy heart and great regret for my past conduct that I stand here today, taking responsibility for my cruel and thoughtless actions. Not only did I participate in discussions about variants on Cardinals cards, I went even further into transgression and occasionally shared a new one. I hope that I may some day be forgiven, if not in my time on Earth, then in the next life, but forgiveness is not needed for me to take ownership and admit to the shameful sin I have committed. It will never, ever happen again, maybe. Shane, definitely don’t look at post #2,397.

ROFL.....big time. ROFL.

Honorable man that Greg for owning up to his past transgressions. That is a heartfelt apology too.

And now I gotta go find another 72 variation.




Butch

[ALR-bishop]

Greg is just applying lessons learned from ErikV's pre war thread

[Tedwilliams1918]

I think for 1972 Gibson a piece of dirt or something got stuck on the print plate and moved around which is why there are soo many different varieties or the variation

[Tedwilliams1918]

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[Tedwilliams1918]

Just wondering, do any of you guys have sandy with extra sand behind his ear?

[Tedwilliams1918]

On this card the more ted the better I believed he touches sid Hudson who also has a similar problem, unfortunately some kid Carried this one in his pocket lol

[Tedwilliams1918]

A chart I made from all my favorites on eBay

[Tedwilliams1918]

Missing black stamp on his characters face

[Tedwilliams1918]

https://vintagebaseballcardvariation...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

[Tedwilliams1918]

Black face

[Tedwilliams1918]

Just bought this on my Facebook group….has the logo in purple and has the white bulge in the yellow rectangle

[Tedwilliams1918]

Really helps explain hudson/sandlock