1889 N526 Diamond James A. Hart How scarce

RCMcKenzie · #1 12-07-2022, 12:23 AM

Bob, and anyone else that wants to chime in on this set, here is Lew Lipset's confirmed list from the 1987 2nd printing edtiion of his guide. I haven't found any other public lists of the confirmed backs. As you point out, and others pointed out earlier in this thread in 2015, the tpg's don't get the backs correct often enough on the labels to use for a confirmed list.

I'm going to put my checklist of my cards on here with scans. I should have some time for that later tomorrow.

BobC · #2 12-07-2022, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Bob, and anyone else that wants to chime in on this set, here is Lew Lipset's confirmed list from the 1987 2nd printing edtiion of his guide. I haven't found any other public lists of the confirmed backs. As you point out, and others pointed out earlier in this thread in 2015, the tpg's don't get the backs correct often enough on the labels to use for a confirmed list.

I'm going to put my checklist of my cards on here with scans. I should have some time for that later tomorrow.

Thanks Rob,

I forgot all about that listing in Lew Lipset's Encyclopedia. Hadn't looked at it in years. I don't believe any more than the 14 players, plus Hart as the manager for a total of 15 different cards, have ever been found. But I'm sure that some of those missing backs for several players have been. I know that for a fact as my John Clarkson has a Number 7 Cigars back on it, which was unknown at the time Lipset's Encyclopedia came out.

And if you go to the PSA and SGC Pop Reports, and compare those to Lipset's lists, it looks like Number 7 Cigar backs do exist for all 15 different fronts. But for the Diamond S Cigar backs, between Lipset and the Pop Reports I can only confirm it exists for 14 of the 15 different fronts. Can't be confirmed for J.B. Ray yet. Although, the SGC Pop Reports do list one J.B. Ray card, but don't say which back it has. Also, based on the mislabeled back on the N526 card the OP posted and started this thread about, I guess we can't be 100% certain the Pop Reports are completely accurate anyway. Still a rare issue though, with only 95 total graded so far between PSA and SGC.

RCMcKenzie · #3 12-07-2022, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC

Thanks Rob,

...my John Clarkson has a Number 7 Cigars back on it, which was unknown at the time Lipset's Encyclopedia came out.

That's great. Hoping more collectors chime in with what they have.

Here are scans of my 10 cards. All are on Lipset's checklist and SGC has labeled them all correctly.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
1889 N526 #7 Cigars What is the stock?	danmckee	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	3	11-17-2014 11:25 PM
Seeking: 1889 N526 Diamond S Dan Brouthers & 1922 W503 Pep Young	rustywilly	Pre-WWII cards (E, D, M, etc..) B/S/T	0	04-30-2013 02:36 PM
1889 n526 Chas Radbourn HOF SOLD	Archive	19th Century Cards & ALL Baseball Postcards- B/S/T	4	11-02-2008 04:54 PM
1889 n526 John Clarkson SOLD	Archive	19th Century Cards & ALL Baseball Postcards- B/S/T	0	10-30-2008 06:46 PM
1889 NUMBER 7 CIGAR N526 on ebay	Archive	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	4	04-19-2003 09:58 PM