BST Live Auctions Section - Suggestions

pokerplyr80 · #1 12-09-2022, 11:08 AM

I would suggest a later cutoff, 1970 perhaps. I wouldn't mind seeing some Mantles up for auction.

bnorth · #2 12-09-2022, 11:15 AM

I personally would hate to see the modern stuff eliminated. I don't sell a lot but I have sold several modern cards/items over the years. I usually start them with no minimum starting bid and they have all sold well.

I believe we have the buyers on Net54 for modern if they are started at auction prices instead of BIN prices.

Leon · #3 12-09-2022, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I would suggest a later cutoff, 1970 perhaps. I wouldn't mind seeing some Mantles up for auction.

While I said I didn't really want new sections, I don't think 1 more would be that bad Live Auctions, one for pre-1950 and one for post-1950

.

GoCubsGo32 · #4 12-09-2022, 11:54 AM

I think those are all great 1-3 bullet points . I do not think we need to eliminate modern or junk wax era all together. Personally, think we need 2 auction sections.

I personally think maybe Pre-1969 & the other 1970-Modern section

HercDriver · #5 12-09-2022, 12:02 PM

Having a set end time is a bad idea, in my opinion. I can�t remember who it was, but a member was auctioning a nice T206 and left a lot of money on the table because somebody placed a bid for a dollar higher, at the last second. I�m sure the underbidder would have ponied up another buck for it, but didn�t get the chance. Since you can�t set a max bid in the BST format, sniping will hurt sellers of nice, vintage cards. You can see how I handle it if you look at the auction I posted today, if you want to take a look. I would like to see something like that. PMing a max bid is a poor second option, but doable.

Cheers,
Geno

G1911 · #6 12-09-2022, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HercDriver

Having a set end time is a bad idea, in my opinion. I can�t remember who it was, but a member was auctioning a nice T206 and left a lot of money on the table because somebody placed a bid for a dollar higher, at the last second. I�m sure the underbidder would have ponied up another buck for it, but didn�t get the chance. Since you can�t set a max bid in the BST format, sniping will hurt sellers of nice, vintage cards. You can see how I handle it if you look at the auction I posted today, if you want to take a look. I would like to see something like that. PMing a max bid is a poor second option, but doable.

Cheers,
Geno

Your way of doing it is very reasonable and fair to bidders and sellers. I�m a fan.

Leon · #7 12-09-2022, 12:29 PM

I like the auction extension idea but I think it might need to be shorter than 10 minutes? On a $1 increment you could go on for quite a while, maybe...I dunno, but I do like this idea. Maybe extended bidding starts at 9pm cst?

I am revising the top as we go....

Quote:

Originally Posted by HercDriver

Having a set end time is a bad idea, in my opinion. I can’t remember who it was, but a member was auctioning a nice T206 and left a lot of money on the table because somebody placed a bid for a dollar higher, at the last second. I’m sure the underbidder would have ponied up another buck for it, but didn’t get the chance. Since you can’t set a max bid in the BST format, sniping will hurt sellers of nice, vintage cards. You can see how I handle it if you look at the auction I posted today, if you want to take a look. I would like to see something like that. PMing a max bid is a poor second option, but doable.

Cheers,
Geno

rajah424 · #8 12-09-2022, 01:00 PM

- Only bump your auction once, the morning of the day it ends.
- No need to respond with "Sold" or "Closed" just edit the original post.

jiw98 · #9 12-09-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rajah424

- Only bump your auction once, the morning of the day it ends.
- No need to respond with "Sold" or "Closed" just edit the original post.

+1
Maybe lock all auctions when they end so they can't be bumped to the top.

BobbyStrawberry · #10 12-09-2022, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

While I said I didn't really want new sections, I don't think 1 more would be that bad Live Auctions, one for pre-1950 and one for post-1950

.

I like this, Leon. The only thing I'm not fully convinced about is the idea that everything should end at the same time each week. I'd love to hear others' thoughts on the reasoning for that particular suggestion.

Thanks, Matthew

steve B · #11 12-09-2022, 12:08 PM

I'd be fine with the $1 start, and a set common ending time section.

The cutoffs will be a bit of a problem for me. I have a bunch of "stuff" cards, memorabilia... Stuff. A lot of it is cheap stuff, or newish. The cards I could just price a lot and put in BST, but the non- card things I have no idea how to price them. Like a batch of snapshots I'm planning on listing, look professionally done, maybe mid 1980's? I don't recall exactly where I got them or why...

I also collect some strange 90's stuff, and would probably bid on some smaller batches or more interesting things. Banning that altogether is a bit snobby.

NOW, what I'd really love to see is the post 2000 stuff given its own BST. That way I can look for 80's and 90's things without the multitude of chromeplateddiecutsigneduniformhotdogwrapper whatevers for $1000... That can be cool stuff, but it deserves it's own place.

PS. I sort of liked FB, etc having for sale posts in the section, the "everything else" section sort of buries it.

bobbyw8469 · #12 12-10-2022, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I like this, Leon. The only thing I'm not fully convinced about is the idea that everything should end at the same time each week. I'd love to hear others' thoughts on the reasoning for that particular suggestion.

Thanks, Matthew

Well...even though they inititally do, the extended bidding would make everything drag out.

obcbobd · #13 12-10-2022, 07:48 AM

Sub-Section 1 Live Auctions Pre-1980

Sub-Section 2 Live Auctions 1980- And Newer

I think this is a great idea.

I prefer fewer rules, so would be against adding new rules especially;

All auctions ending on the same day. Same time is ok, but I think its good to spread the auction ends across many days.

$1 opening bid, in theory a nice idea, but, as we are trying to encourage more pre-war auctions, this might discourage people from listing. This could be revisited after a few months, especially if it gets like eBay with $100 opening bids on a $50 card.

Looking forward to the new changes

Bob

rand1com · #14 12-10-2022, 08:14 AM

Unfortunately, we all want what we want!

I think we should be happy with any positive changes that Leon makes to the auction process.

As he said, pre war cards will not likely go for a song but cards from the 1950's forward may well go out cheap based on perceived values.

If you want to protect against that, don't list in the auction category.

I'll run a few cards and judge the results. If I don't like them, I won't be out a fortune and will not run more. That is the worst case result.

Pretty simple IMO.

GoCubsGo32 · #15 12-09-2022, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I would suggest a later cutoff, 1970 perhaps. I wouldn't mind seeing some Mantles up for auction.

1+ exactly my thought.

isiahfan · #16 12-09-2022, 12:03 PM

Would also love to see a minimum value (or estimated final sale amount) maybe...I go to the auction site once every few weeks but see too much junk that doesn't sell at all or for just a few bucks....and this is coming from a guy that doesn't own a card earlier than the 50's. There are 2-3 sellers in particular listing this same stuff in both auctions and BST...it really clogs up the pages IMO.

i.e., I don't mind seeing a PSAX Rickey Henderson (or the like) RC....but it gets annoying seeing "10 mixed 1980's-1990's (you name the sport) HOF lot" where I would have these cards in a $.25 box or in lots for a few cents each...or even worse...a one mid's 90's insert worth $10 that usually doesn't sell on eBay for $1 w/free shipping.

vent over......

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