World Cup

ClementeFanOh · #1 12-09-2022, 09:15 PM

First of all, two INCREDIBLE matches today, filled with high drama. The
teams I wanted to win, actually won

(Alert the media!)

Regarding PK shootouts -Peter and any other commenters:

It is vital that I begin by saying I greatly, greatly prefer matches that end
after regulation. People express disdain for PKs but don't offer any other
way. The fact is that, in order to get to PKs, two teams are given THIRTY
extra minutes to resolve it, and most do. These teams don't get a million
timeouts and commercial breaks, and can't substitute ad infinitum either.
It's got to end somehow, and PKs are an art (both sides of the equation).
Today's PKs were tense, which was actually cool...

Regarding PK's being "artificial", I'm not so sure. I think the end of
practically every televised college basketball game- which is a glorified
free throw shooting contest brought about by (uncalled) intentional fouls
that often occur 80 feet away from the basket- is the true "artificial"
ending to a sports contest. Now THAT is a joke...

At any rate, no one has come up with a better way after decades of debate.
I'm just glad today was memorable- Trent King

frankbmd · #2 12-10-2022, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

First of all, two INCREDIBLE matches today, filled with high drama. The
teams I wanted to win, actually won

(Alert the media!)

Regarding PK shootouts -Peter and any other commenters:

It is vital that I begin by saying I greatly, greatly prefer matches that end
after regulation. People express disdain for PKs but don't offer any other
way. The fact is that, in order to get to PKs, two teams are given THIRTY
extra minutes to resolve it, and most do. These teams don't get a million
timeouts and commercial breaks, and can't substitute ad infinitum either.
It's got to end somehow, and PKs are an art (both sides of the equation).
Today's PKs were tense, which was actually cool...

Regarding PK's being "artificial", I'm not so sure. I think the end of
practically every televised college basketball game- which is a glorified
free throw shooting contest brought about by (uncalled) intentional fouls
that often occur 80 feet away from the basket- is the true "artificial"
ending to a sports contest. Now THAT is a joke...

At any rate, no one has come up with a better way after decades of debate.
I'm just glad today was memorable- Trent King

The alternative to penalty kicks deciding games is simple. Replace them with sudden death overtime at the 90 minute mark. No 30 minute extra time and no PKs. Score a goal and the match is over.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 12-10-2022, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The alternative to penalty kicks deciding games is simple. Replace them with sudden death overtime at the 90 minute mark. No 30 minute extra time and no PKs. Score a goal and the match is over.

The problem with that is many extra time games will get decided by some dumb ass penalty call on a flop setting up the game winning penalty kick. It's already a huge problem, witness the second Argentina goal.

frankbmd · #4 12-10-2022, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The problem with that is many extra time games will get decided by some dumb ass penalty call on a flop setting up the game winning penalty kick. It's already a huge problem, witness the second Argentina goal.

If a flopper gets up and runs like nothing happened, eject him and shoot the ref.

CardPadre · #5 12-10-2022, 03:05 PM

I feel, like with hockey, having important/elimination games decided at full strength would be best for soccer. I know fatigue is a huge issue at the end of games and they can�t just play indefinitely, though.

But maybe make it a half-field game after regulation (and maybe one extra 15-minute traditional period). At that point, let a team offensively attack for 5 minutes from midfield. If the defense clears it out past midfield then the attacking team resets and starts again. Then the other team gets 5 minutes of attack. Keep going until you have a winner.

That would mitigate the fatigue factor of playing a full-field game at that point, but allow for aggressive, risk-taking offensive play at full strength (without the fear of giving up a chance the other way) that would closely resemble normal play.

Casey2296 · #6 12-10-2022, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd

If a flopper gets upland runs like nothing happened, eject him and shoot the ref.

I'm thinking a simple option and an entertaining option to finish games.

Simple option: Rochambeau best two out of three at the end of regulation.

Entertaining option: switch from soccer to rugby rules, sudden death.

ClementeFanOh · #7 12-10-2022, 04:50 PM

I knew there had to be a bad side to the coin- France advances. Please,
please- ANY of the remaining 3 for the title! Tight games today. Trent King

Peter_Spaeth · #8 12-10-2022, 05:30 PM

I know Trent is not a big Ronaldo fan but I don't think it was very smart not playing him until the 55th minute or whatever it was.

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