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Old 12-22-2022, 11:59 PM
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My Main grievances:

1. Fraud in the hobby whether it be card or autograph related
2. "Investors" that buy fractional shares of a vintage card.
3. The amount of modern sets.


To expand on number 3, not that I really purchase modern nowadays, but on the whole there are way too many sets to keep track of and it will do more harm than good to our Hobby.
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Old 12-23-2022, 01:46 AM
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Auction houses that don't describe flannel jerseys completely.

Many AH are occasionally guilty of this. Latest example I've found:

https://goldin.co/item/1966-boog-pow...needs-sigxu2gc

Nowhere in the description does it mention the NOB is removed. For a collector and certainly for an investor, this is a major thing.

I've had discussions with 2 major AH in the past couple of years about this. Both have said that if they don't mention any restorations/alterations, I can assume the condition is all original. My reply was that with those items, I'd have a better comfort level (and they'd likely realize a better price) if they would simply put "all original" in their listing. Sometimes they do, sometimes not.
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Old 12-23-2022, 02:39 AM
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Third party authenticators. I understand that they might have to collect more money to insure and ship an expensive card vs an inexpensive card, and maybe I'm missing something and am just a grumpy old man! But I still have a problem with the fact that most of them have a sliding scale for grading and slabbing cards based on value, when in most cases, it takes the same amount of labor and same cost of raw materials to grade and slab a $20 card as it does to grade and slab a $20,000 card.

Having said that, I would happily pay extra for authentication or grading in the case of a card or other piece of memorabilia that might need extra research to be done if the piece is rare or has never been documented.
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Old 12-23-2022, 06:33 AM
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1. Unpriced cards in showcases at shows.
2. The recent trend of TPG's hammering vintage cards down 1+ grades, mostly in the 3-8 range, from what we've all been used to over the past 20 years.
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Old 12-23-2022, 06:58 AM
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Wire coat hangers on flannel jerseys !
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Auction houses that don't describe flannel jerseys completely.

Many AH are occasionally guilty of this. Latest example I've found:

https://goldin.co/item/1966-boog-pow...needs-sigxu2gc

Nowhere in the description does it mention the NOB is removed. For a collector and certainly for an investor, this is a major thing.

I've had discussions with 2 major AH in the past couple of years about this. Both have said that if they don't mention any restorations/alterations, I can assume the condition is all original. My reply was that with those items, I'd have a better comfort level (and they'd likely realize a better price) if they would simply put "all original" in their listing. Sometimes they do, sometimes not.
+1 to this!
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Old 12-23-2022, 04:44 PM
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My grievance is eBay sellers who (in their highly detailed description of a given card) simply state the TPG’s number grade. I could not care less, as I am most likely to break it out the second it arrives. And I can already see the number on the flip anyway.

They are too lazy to describe the card itself, and focus more on the idiotic slab. Then when you receive the card, it has a crease that never showed up in the scan, and was never disclosed in the description.
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