Should Some Interference Be Allowed In The BST Areas?

JollyElm · #1 01-03-2023, 08:48 PM

And who, pray tell, decides what the limits are for this type of interference?? It's a huge can of worms. There is nothing more annoying than someone bringing their BS into someone else's FS/FT thread, as it's happened to me and plenty of others before. It'll start with some sort of casual, "You missed a few pertinent comps, old boy" and then dissolve into a sh*tshow as people start throwing their opinions into people's threads just for a laugh.

Caveat emptor. Everyone around here knows what the deal is, so each should do their own research and fact finding. If it ain't broke...

Snapolit1 · #2 01-03-2023, 09:05 PM

Maybe a middle ground is you can out someone for what you think is a misleading BST post but should as a courtesy raise it with them privately first and see if it's promptly acted upon. What might be obvious to some might not be obvious to another person.

Vintagecatcher · #3 01-03-2023, 09:21 PM

I have been on this site from the very beginning. Most often as a buyer... rarely as a seller.

Since my focus is strictly pre-war catchers, I have a very good idea of the "going rate" for most items after 30 plus years of experience.

I have bought many items over the years from the B/S/ T thread.

Sellers post the item with a price, and then I decide whether the price is fair. If it is, then I'll attempt to buy it. Never remember seeing any threads with "comps".... just the sale price.

As others have stated already, opening the door for others to comment is a slippery slope.

Working with the public, I always hope for the best, but see the worst in people far too often.

Patrick

Exhibitman · #4 01-04-2023, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm

And who, pray tell, decides what the limits are for this type of interference?? It's a huge can of worms. There is nothing more annoying than someone bringing their BS into someone else's FS/FT thread, as it's happened to me and plenty of others before. It'll start with some sort of casual, "You missed a few pertinent comps, old boy" and then dissolve into a sh*tshow as people start throwing their opinions into people's threads just for a laugh.

Caveat emptor. Everyone around here knows what the deal is, so each should do their own research and fact finding. If it ain't broke...

+1

This is a classic slippery slope and will degenerate fast if allowed.

Leon · #5 01-04-2023, 10:43 AM

Ya'll (I will never use "yawl" again unless it's a sailboat) know me and know how I have felt, forever. The member makes a persuasive argument but hasn't moved the needle for needing change, imo. I think it's appropriate to post the actual written rule, under the Forum Rules icon, as most probably haven't read it. And, as stated, fraudulent activity IS the exception, which is ok to expose in BST threads.

Posts offering to buy, sell, or trade items should be made in the appropriate Buy/Sell/Trade index. This includes posts for items appearing in on-line auctions such as eBay, Grand Slam Bids and auction houses etc... Buy/Sell/Trade threads in the wrong categories, or forums, will be moved or deleted. There should be no interference by 3rd parties within the Buy/Sell/Trade areas. Third parties are those not involved in a transaction. This includes, but is not limited to, posting current or historical cost information, commenting negatively on the offer or item, or anything that interferes with the listing in a negative way. Only persons involved in the transaction should post in the thread, however benign or favorable comments are generally permitted by third parties. If you don't know the difference between them, then please don't post. One exception is to expose fraudulent activity. It may always be posted in any thread, anywhere on the board, but you better have your ducks in a row and your name by your post when you report these misdeeds. �Caveat Emptor- Buyer Beware� to all members. Each member uses the board at their own risk. Net54baseball does not monitor, and is not responsible for, transactions. Our sole recourse, in a punitive manner is suspension or banishment from the board. The Uniform Commercial Code of Law of the United States applies. We will work with authority�s when/if the need arises. Please request references from your trading partners when they are not well known or you don�t know them. Whenever someone resists giving a reference, upon request, please contact the moderator as that is, many times, a red flag.

Once any transaction is completed in the Buy/Sell/Trade areas, or over with, that transaction shouldn�t be deleted. Specific pricing, or confidential information may be removed but the other information should stay. Items should be consolidated in the BST area, into one thread, when appropriate. In other words don�t list more than a few similar items in single threads, in the same BST area, at once. IF you do this, they will most likely be deleted and asked to be posted again in a consolidated fashion. You should not bump a BST thread to the top very often (every 3-4 days at most) as it is discourteous to other posters.

Bigdaddy · #6 01-04-2023, 10:53 AM

Totally agree with the slippery slope argument. What if the seller leaves out one comp, or two? Is that enough to call them out? And as another poster pointed out, all PSA 5s are not created equal. Would we call out a seller for asking too little for a card? Maybe they didn't notice the band-aid on Al Kaline's forehead. Just seems like something that is hard to police and would take much time/effort on Leon's part and/or bring unnecessary drama into BST threads.

I agree that we should call out forgeries, altered cards, reprints, etc, but those are usually best handled through PMs.

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