T206, or not....let's have a continuing conversation....Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco card

[tedzan]

Jim Blumenthal started the "ball rolling" regarding the Ty Cobb/TY COBB card when he posted this thread in 2006...... Senator Russel's tobacco card collection.......

Furthermore, Jon Canfield posted this Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb thread that sparked some spirited discussion. Including information revealing that the Ty Cobb Cut Plug Smoking
Tobacco was marketed in the Spring of 1910...... What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back

My research regarding this Ty Cobb card begins from reading Senator Richard Russell's biography. Russell was an avid baseball fan in his youth. As a 13-year old in 1910
he collected T206 cards, and OLD MILL (T210) cards.

The University of Georgia has on display Senator Russel's tobacco card collection which includes a near complete set of T206's (497 cards). It's missing Lundgren, Plank,
and Wagner). The highlights of his set are the T206 Cobb/Cobb card and the Doyle N.Y. Nat'L card.

It appears to me that 1910 was the only year he purchased PIEDMONT cigarette packs, since his parents sent him off to Military School in 1911.

Having said all this, I could continue with more information, but I will leave that for later.


TED Z

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[parkerj33]

Ted, did Russell have a magie? I don't think so. And is his collection solely piedmont? And do we know if he obtained cards after 1910? I ask because you seem to insinuate that he only bought cards in 1910, and perhaps only piedmonts. So given that it seems curious that he obtained a cobb/cobb.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Ted, did Russell have a magie? I don't think so. And is his collection solely piedmont? And do we know if he obtained cards after 1910? I ask because you seem to insinuate that he only bought cards in 1910, and perhaps only piedmonts. So given that it seems curious that he obtained a cobb/cobb.

Hi Jim

No Magie card.

Most of the missing 27 cards in his T206 set are from the 150/350 Series. Which suggests that his T206 collecting days did not start until 1910 (at age 13).

Furthermore, regarding the cards in the 150/350 series group, his collection included multiples of the Elite 11 subjects (with the rare PIEDMONT 350 backs).

Mr. Russell grew up in Winder, Georgia (near Atlanta), which has been the source of most of the Elite 11 cards.


TED Z

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[FrankWakefield]

And the Senator didn't have all/only Piedmont cards, he had T210 Old Mills, also.

[ullmandds]

I am in the camp of the cobb/cobb NOT being a true t206...distributed in tobacco packs.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Ted, did Russell have a magie? I don't think so. And is his collection solely piedmont? And do we know if he obtained cards after 1910?

I ask because you seem to insinuate that he only bought cards in 1910, and perhaps only piedmonts. So given that
it seems curious that he obtained a cobb/cobb.

Hi Jim

I forgot to respond to your last question. So here goes....Russell's Dad was a Circuit Judge who would often travel to Atlanta.
According to Richard's biography his Dad would occasionally take young Richard with him on these trips to Atlanta. A number
of Cobb/Ty Cobb Tobacco cards have surfaced from the Atlanta area, where I think they were just handed out as promotional
cards for this new Tobacco brand. And, that is how his Dad simply acquired this card for him.

I personally think that the majority of these Cobb cards were never stuffed inside the Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco tins.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Jim Blumenthal started the "ball rolling" regarding the Ty Cobb/TY COBB card when he posted this thread in 2006...... Senator Russel's tobacco card collection.......

Furthermore, Jon Canfield posted this Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb thread that sparked some spirited discussion. Including information revealing that the Ty Cobb Cut Plug Smoking
Tobacco was marketed in the Spring of 1910...... What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back

My research regarding this Ty Cobb card begins from reading Senator Richard Russell's biography. Russell was an avid baseball fan in his youth. As a 13-year old in 1910
he collected T206 cards, and OLD MILL (T210) cards.

The University of Georgia has on display Senator Russel's tobacco card collection which includes a near complete set of T206's (497 cards). It's missing Lundgren, Plank,
and Wagner). The highlights of his set are the T206 Cobb/Cobb card and the Doyle N.Y. Nat'L card.

It appears to me that 1910 was the only year he purchased PIEDMONT cigarette packs, since his parents sent him off to Military School in 1911.

Having said all this, I could continue with more information, but I will leave that for later.
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Hi Frank

The T210 cards were already noted in my Post #20.

He had many of them; however, his T206 collection was quite huge.

Circa 2006 - 2007, I acquired quite a number of his duplicates (especially Elite 11 subjects) from one of his relatives in the Atlanta area.


TED Z

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