Question-Card Collection in Canada

BobC · #1 01-08-2023, 11:38 PM

Though I couldn't find a specific mention of sports cards, if you click on the following link, it should take you to the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule. This section may cover what you're looking for. I would still advise contacting the U.S. Customs and Border services for a more accurate estimate.

https://hts.usitc.gov/current

The Chapter 49 section deals with items made of paper, and printed items, books, etc., This seems to be the most appropriate section I could find that would cover and possibly include sports cards. The Chapter 95 section includes playing cards, along with toys/games and sports related equipment and so on. So you may want to review this chapter as well for additional reference. Good luck, hope this helps.

And as Lucas said, if you can get the seller to come to you instead, it would save you the hassle of having to declare the items and possibly paying some U.S. duty/tariffs on the cards. But do maybe double check and see if you can get an advance duty estimate from U.S. Customs services first. It may end up not being that big a deal after all, or that expensive to bring sports cards back to the U.S. A lot of paper based items outlined in Chapter 49 did not appear to have any duty owed on them when bringing them into the U.S. You might get lucky after all and end up owing nothing on them. Again, good luck.

Lobo Aullando · #2 01-09-2023, 11:38 AM

For a recently manufactured pack of cards, it would be 49. However, the old stuff is considered more like coins, stamps, or a work of art. Those are Chapter 97 (specifically, HS9702).*

* - I'm 99% percent sure this is how they'd want you to file, but always defer to their advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC

Though I couldn't find a specific mention of sports cards, if you click on the following link, it should take you to the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule. This section may cover what you're looking for. I would still advise contacting the U.S. Customs and Border services for a more accurate estimate.

https://hts.usitc.gov/current

The Chapter 49 section deals with items made of paper, and printed items, books, etc., This seems to be the most appropriate section I could find that would cover and possibly include sports cards. The Chapter 95 section includes playing cards, along with toys/games and sports related equipment and so on. So you may want to review this chapter as well for additional reference. Good luck, hope this helps.

And as Lucas said, if you can get the seller to come to you instead, it would save you the hassle of having to declare the items and possibly paying some U.S. duty/tariffs on the cards. But do maybe double check and see if you can get an advance duty estimate from U.S. Customs services first. It may end up not being that big a deal after all, or that expensive to bring sports cards back to the U.S. A lot of paper based items outlined in Chapter 49 did not appear to have any duty owed on them when bringing them into the U.S. You might get lucky after all and end up owing nothing on them. Again, good luck.

boysblue · #3 01-09-2023, 11:50 AM

If it's 100k plus maybe just pay the guy a little extra to meet you somewhere in the states and skip the major headache.

^^^^^^^

This would create a problem for the Canadian seller though. His failure to declare that he is entering the USA with items for sale could get him into real trouble with US Customs.

BobC · #4 01-09-2023, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lobo Aullando

For a recently manufactured pack of cards, it would be 49. However, the old stuff is considered more like coins, stamps, or a work of art. Those are Chapter 97 (specifically, HS9702).*

* - I'm 99% percent sure this is how they'd want you to file, but always defer to their advice.

And exactly why I advised the OP to still contact U.S. Customs and Border Patrol to get a better estimate from them. He did not mention what the collection was made up of, old pre-war or vintage cards, sets, packs, modern, or a mix. As you noted, depending on what is in the set and the age, etc., he could have different portions of the collection subject to different tariffs/duties.

And as someone else noted, getting the seller to maybe come to the U.S. to drop off the collection may save the OP the hassle of going through customs, but the collection is still going to get hit with whatever tariffs/duties are going to be owed on it. And the seller may want quite a bit more than expected then to now cover his travel costs and the tariff/duty charges he'll be getting hit with. And I still wonder if the seller was planning to be reporting this sale for tax purposes in Canada. If not, he may not be wanting to bring it to the U.S./Canadian border himself and giving officials his name and telling them any other information about the collection he's selling then. Do not discount the possibility of Canadian and U.S. authorities sharing info about their citizens moving back and forth across their borders.

Fred · #5 01-09-2023, 04:29 PM

Grant,

How much of a drive is the collection from where you live in Washington? If it's a days drive, I'd just drive and bring it back. Is any of it graded? If it's all raw, then it just looks like cardboard sports cards. If it's slabbed stuff, then it looks like potential $$$ signs.

If it's a lot of cards that can't be hand carried then do you really want to put the cards in the cargo hold of a plane and have the cards potentially lost/damaged? I guess all the high $$ ticket items would be in the carry-on.

Edited to add - 10 years ago most people wouldn't have thought about declaring cardboard... Never really thought about the implications of moving the stuff across international borders. I can remember having (6) N162s (including an Anson) shipped to me from Australia. I never thought about the custom's/duties on that stuff. I just looked at it as baseball cards heading to my collection.

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