Mets and $333 Million Dollar payroll

[mrreality68]

Either Way if he will be with Minnesota now. The deal is structured in a way that the team risk is less because shorter term(the issue with the ankle is that it is degenerative in nature (arthritic over time) and no way to reverse it once it really progresses. They claim the early years not an issue vs the later years and that is why the Mets and Giants were afraid of the long term deals with out some protections

[nolemmings]

It looks like Correa passed the MN physical, which is no surprise. What I do find surprising is that the Mets or Giants couldn't or wouldn't beat the Twins offer, which is not all that outlandish given what they had previously put on the table. Everyone knows the backend of these contracts are not economical for the team, so it seems that the Mets and Correa could have come to terms for a shorter contract that was more front-loaded ala what ultimately came to pass with Minnesota, IMO.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

It looks like Correa passed the MN physical, which is no surprise. What I do find surprising is that the Mets or Giants couldn't or wouldn't beat the Twins offer, which is not all that outlandish given what they had previously put on the table. Everyone knows the backend of these contracts are not economical for the team, so it seems that the Mets and Correa could have come to terms for a shorter contract that was more front-loaded ala what ultimately came to pass with Minnesota, IMO.

I wish they signed him but it looks like Cohen was not willing to go as high as Minnesota. WE know he is not cheap but obviously he is strategic on his money also. Which I respect. So if Correa Got more Good For him

For the Mets and Giants they will move on and we will see what they do. For Me I hope they bring up Baty from the minors and let him compete for the 3rd base job

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

I wish they signed him but it looks like Cohen was not willing to go as high as Minnesota. WE know he is not cheap but obviously he is strategic on his money also. Which I respect. So if Correa Got more Good For him

For the Mets and Giants they will move on and we will see what they do. For Me I hope they bring up Baty from the minors and let him compete for the 3rd base job

That's just it, he didn't really get a better deal with Minnesota. The Twins are on the hook--worst case and only if Correa "vests" (whatever that means here) for $270M over 10 years; i.e. 27M per season. The Mets offered him a little more than $26M/season over 12 years with no way out and the Giants offered 26.9M for 13 years with again no way out. I guess the Mets save $7M a year for the first 6 years, but it is understood that contracts of that length are always valued more at the front end, with the team eating a bunch of money at the back.

There may be some other factors such as luxury tax, but otherwise it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me that the Mets or Giants could have restructured to their advantage and still beat the MN offer, unless I'm missing something.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

It looks like Correa passed the MN physical, which is no surprise. What I do find surprising is that the Mets or Giants couldn't or wouldn't beat the Twins offer, which is not all that outlandish given what they had previously put on the table. Everyone knows the backend of these contracts are not economical for the team, so it seems that the Mets and Correa could have come to terms for a shorter contract that was more front-loaded ala what ultimately came to pass with Minnesota, IMO.

I think its sour grapes at that point that correa wouldnt want to give mets or SF a much better deal as they brilliantly already put him in a place to take less now with Minn, didnt want to return them, who knows..

but i know i have made an offer on a house, and the seller said it was too low and raised his price...6 months later sold for less than i offered, why didnt the owner contact me since i offered more.....sour grapes..

[packs]

Why would the Mets or the Giants want to work with Minnesota to save them money on a player all three teams want?

[BobbyStrawberry]

I could be wrong, but I suspect that this was all about the insurability of the contract as it went into those 7th, 8th+ years

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I could be wrong, but I suspect that this was all about the insurability of the contract as it went into those 7th, 8th+ years

Very well could be

Regardless hopefully the story is finally over and we can all move on

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Why would the Mets or the Giants want to work with Minnesota to save them money on a player all three teams want?

Define 'want' thats a relative term. Marlins wanted him as well. All about price and terms. Mets and Giants did not want him in the way and terms that Twins wanted him.

Like a mansion thats 'worth' 30 million but on sale for 10 million. its a great deal but I still cant buy it even if want it. Wanting is not enough, depends on price and terms.

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Define 'want' thats a relative term. Marlins wanted him as well. All about price and terms. Mets and Giants did not want him in the way and terms that Twins wanted him.

Like a mansion thats 'worth' 30 million but on sale for 10 million. its a great deal but I still cant buy it even if want it. Wanting is not enough, depends on price and terms.

I define "want" in this instance as an announcement they had a deal with the player.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

I define "want" in this instance as an announcement they had a deal with the player.

Announcement is not a deal, you 'buy' a house its in escrow.. you do inspection, and then you dont want the house. I believe they usually say deal "pending physical' By not going through with the deal, it would appear they did not 'want' the player at a certain price..