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Sorry, sorry ,sorry, my bad, missed the post 1900 point. I still mention the Federal League teams from 1913-1915. Outside of Cracker Jacks, not really sure where you'd find them. And so many rare and obscure minor league teams after 1900, there's probably some regional issue where only a card or two from a particular team still exists. And there are probably still some others out there that no one may even know about in the overall hobby yet. Bob Lemke and his SCD catalog crew never listed every single card set that ever existed. I'm sure there are some that even they didn't know about.
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But the OP's question depends on the team, not the players, right? That's what can make this question all the tougher. Also, listings of sets and such don't always automatically include the teams they were shown playing for. For many, you need to get images of pretty much all the different cards in every set to verify the teams, or be prepared to do a lot of cross-checking of players to teams they played with over the years. I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to obscure minor league teams. There may be some others on the board aware of some of these really obscure and rare minor league sets, that could lead to images of even rarer minor league team's players.
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Agree 100% Phil, that is an absolutely great, and also exceedingly tough as hell question by the OP. I don't know if anyone could even do more to answer it than to simply make their best educated guess. Still waiting to hear some possible answers from others.
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Like I said, I wasn't sure, and was hoping if I was wrong that someone else might speak up, so thank you for chiming in. For me, the T214 and T216 sets are ones I never really got into collecting, so don't know much about them. Always great to learn something new though. |
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Hey, for the OP, here's the list of teams that made up the Federal League from 1913-1915. It might be used to look at what cards of what Federal League teams did show up in the Cracker Jack, T214, and T216 sets. There could maybe be a case where only one card for a particular Federal League team was ever issued among these different sets. That would certainly seem to make that team's card a possible candidate to answer the OP's question.
Teams........................Seasons.....Comment Baltimore Terrapins......1914–15 Brooklyn Tip-Tops........1914–15 Buffalo Blues...............1914–15....Initially known as the Buffeds Chicago Whales...........1913–15.....Initially known as the Federals or Keeleys Cleveland Green Sox....1913 Covington Blue Sox......1913..........Also known as the Colonels. Transferred to Kansas City, mid-season 1913 Indianapolis Hoosiers....1913–14.....Moved to Newark in 1915 Kansas City Packers......1913–15.....Had been in Covington until mid-season 1913 Newark Peppers...........1915...........Moved from Indianapolis following the 1914 season Pittsburgh Rebels.........1913–15.....Known as the Filipinos in 1913, and initially as the Stogies in 1914 St. Louis Terriers....... ..1913–15 After coming across some more info regarding Federal League teams on baseball cards, from SABR's site, looks like one of the Federal League teams may not be the answer to the OP's question after all. The article also mentions heretofore unnamed other sets that Federal League team players were included in. https://sabr.org/research/article/fe...aseball-cards/ Last edited by BobC; 01-14-2023 at 12:06 AM. |
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Here is a relatively recent thread that has some good information on sets featuring Federal League players.
https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...hlight=federal Brian |
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Maybe Bresnahan, Toledo Iron Men 1916-19?
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This T213-2 should prove to be a challenge (not mine of course):
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Just saw this thread, and it got me thinking - *WERE* there cards of the 1913 Federal League teams? (when they were a minor league). So, the Green Sox, Colonels/Blue Sox/Packers, Filipinos, Keeleys, Hoosiers, Terriers. Had never thought that that could be a possibility......
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