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Old 01-25-2023, 05:23 PM
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I know these pennants are rather new for this forum (and it may be too much football all at once), but I thought some of you may find them interesting. I won the Ronnie Lott on ebay last week. I collect 49ers pennants, but never even knew that this existed. I had seen the Montana before in a collection, but never for sale. I did a bunch of searching through worthpoint and came up with the following examples. All seem to be very, very rare, with each having, at most, two sales. They all say "1982 NFL Properties" on them.

I'm curious to know if anyone has any of these, if there are other players, etc.

I've also wondered if the 1982 strike somehow kept them off the market.

I also want Kyle to decide that he needs to figure out who made them and how they were sold. NFL properties did have catalogs and I have seen a sale for a 1982 catalog, but can't find one to look through.

I know that Kyle already posted about the player pennants from later in 90s. Those are common. These are something different.

Coincidentally, I had the 1982 catalog Mark referenced but they aren't included anywhere within the 159 page book.

I'm probably the only other person here interested enough to notice but there are subtle design differences in these pennants that make me wonder if these were maybe prototypes or samples. They are so rare they couldn't have been widely marketed.

Joe Ferguson and Harvey Martin seem like odd choices for a pennant series when there's no evidence of a Tony Dorsett, Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, Lawrence Taylor, Dan Fouts or any other bigger star of the early 80s.

The Too Tall and Harvey Martin each sold for over $130 in 2010, so somebody recognized their rarity.

Lastly, how bleak has eBay become that I'm this intrigued by 1980s pennants? I guess the vintage needle is moving for me.
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Old 01-25-2023, 05:29 PM
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I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.
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I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.
Yeah it’s a Mitchell and Ness circa 1998. I owned this when I first started collecting and bought a pile of these from their Philly store when they had one of their 50% off Super Bowl weekend sales. It actually looks like minor damage was intentionally inflicted on it to look old. The graphics on these don’t chip or crack but it kinda looks like it.

I don’t know of a vintage pennant with any text or date on the spine (besides the grommet pennants which have a fake spine).
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:02 PM
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Yeah it’s a Mitchell and Ness circa 1998. I owned this when I first started collecting and bought a pile of these from their Philly store when they had one of their 50% off Super Bowl weekend sales. It actually looks like minor damage was intentionally inflicted on it to look old. The graphics on these don’t chip or crack but it kinda looks like it.
Yeah, mine is pristine. There are honest ebay sellers who just don’t know what they have and then there are scammers…
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Here’s a harder to detect repro.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36412409806...ZS-YQ&LH_BIN=1
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Repro or fantasy?
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Repro or fantasy?
Repro. The white and blue versions were made of cloth, orange was softer felt. This is stiffer paper-felt and the MLB trademark looks odd.
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I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.
And yeah, he knows. I told him and linked to a Huggins auction that said so.
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I’ve had three people contact me about the 1954 NY Giants pennant on ebay. It’s a fantasy and not a repro of anything that actually exists. The seller dropped the opening bid from $525 to $200, so I think he knows but isn’t disclaiming.
I just noticed the clown seller is calling it a “scroll pennant.” All it’s missing is a scroll.
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I just noticed the clown seller is calling it a “scroll pennant.” All it’s missing is a scroll.
His earlier response to me, after proving its origin to him:

“Read this listing it is 100% accurate. I have over $100,00 of t-206 to 1956 Topps PSA cards. And autograph of Baseball legends. I know the collection industry. Enough said.”
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What a joke. Anyone with a brain can tell in a split second that the "1954 Giants Pennant" is a fake. And there's a bid on it, no less.
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His earlier response to me, after proving its origin to him:

“Read this listing it is 100% accurate. I have over $100,00 of t-206 to 1956 Topps PSA cards. And autograph of Baseball legends. I know the collection industry. Enough said.”
He’s a jerk. Enough said.

In the old days of ebay, we’d be able to reach out to the buyer who’s about to get duped.
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He’s a jerk. Enough said.

In the old days of ebay, we’d be able to reach out to the buyer who’s about to get duped.
If you look closely at the pennant, there are minor flaws that don’t seem natural. Those pennants don’t crack or chip.
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Somebody posted this as a 1915 Red Sox pennant. I'm a card guy, not a pennant guy. Can anybody help with this one?
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