Team with the most borderline Hall of Famers

cgjackson222 · #1 02-11-2023, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter08

Mets probably have the most players that should have made the hall of fame if they didn’t get in their own way. Probably traded away the most hall of famers too. Sigh.

Mets still have a nice group of borderline HOFers.
Many probably would go in as a member of another team, but all have played significant time with the Mets.

1) Keith Hernandez (5x All Star, MVP, 2 World Series, Batting Title, 60.3 bWAR)
2) David Wright (7x All Star, 49.2 bWAR)
3) Carlos Delgado (2x All Star, ML POY, 44.4 bWAR)
4) Carlos Beltran (ROY, 9x All Star, Word Series, 70.1 bWAR)
5) Robin Ventura (2x All Star, 56.1 bWAR)
6) John Olerud (2x All Star, 2 World Series, Battling Title, 58.2 bWAR)
7) Darryl Strawberry (ROY, 8x All Star, 3 World Series, 42.2 bWAR)
8) George Foster (5x All Star, MVP, 2 World Series, 44.1 bWAR)
9) Jeff Kent (5x All Star, MVP, 55.4 bWAR)
10) Curtis Granderson (3x All Star, 47.2 bWAR)
11) David Cone (5x All Star, Cy Young, 5 World Series, Perfect Game, 62.3 bWAR)
12) Dwight Gooden (ROY, 4x All Star, 2 World Series, triple crown, 53 bWAR)
13) Jerry Koosman (2x All Star, World Series, 53.6 bWAR)
14) Johan Santana (4x All Star, 2x Cy Young, Triple Crown, 3x ERA Title, 51.7 bWAR)
15) Bartolo Colon (4x All Star, Cy Young, 46.2 bWAR)
16) Billy Wagner (7x All Star, Rolaids Reliever, 422 Saves, 187 ERA+)
17) John Franco (4x All Star, 2x Rolaids Reliever, 424 saves, 138 ERA+)

I personally think Hernandez, Cone and maybe Kent have strong cases for the Hall.
I think Beltran eventually gets in.

cgjackson222 · #2 01-13-2025, 03:17 PM

The Hall of Commons thread got me thinking about how the Houston Astros have a few borderline guys:

1) Lance Berkman: Career OPS+ of 144, 366 HRs, bWAR of 51.9
2) Jim Wynn: Career OPS+ of 129, 3x All Star, bWAR of 55.8
3) Jos� Cruz: bWAR 54.4
4) Cesar Cedeno: 4x All-Star, 5x Gold Glove, bWAR 53.1
5) Ken Caminiti: MVP, 3x All Star, 3x Gold Glove, Silver Slugger
6) Billy Wagner: 422 Career Saves, ERA+ of 187, WHIP of .998. Highest strikeout rate of 33.2% of any pitcher with 900 innings pitched.

Others worth noting: Joe Niekro, Mike Scott, JR Richard.

Looks like Wagner might get into the Hall this year, so he would come off the list.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 01-13-2025, 03:49 PM

Yankees

Mattingly
Munson
Posada
B Williams
Pettite
Randolph
Nettles
Cone

cgjackson222 · #4 01-13-2025, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yankees

Mattingly
Munson
Posada
B Williams
Pettite
Randolph
Nettles
Cone

Yes, Yankees probably have the most, as per the 1st entry in this thread.

packs · #5 01-13-2025, 04:53 PM

The Cubs have a pretty solid roster of non-Hall players:

Ed Reulbach
Wild Fire Schulte
Sammy Sosa
Mark Grace
Kerry Wood
Mark Prior
Carlos Zambrano
Stan Hack
Phil Cavarretta
Riggs Stephenson

cgjackson222 · #6 01-13-2025, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs

The Cubs have a pretty solid roster of non-Hall players:

Ed Reulbach
Wild Fire Schulte
Sammy Sosa
Mark Grace
Kerry Wood
Mark Prior
Carlos Zambrano
Stan Hack
Phil Cavarretta
Riggs Stephenson

True. Could also include Rick Reuschel, Hippo Vaughn, Bill Nicholson, and Bill Hutchison

tod41 · #7 01-22-2025, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Mets still have a nice group of borderline HOFers.
Many probably would go in as a member of another team, but all have played significant time with the Mets.

1) Keith Hernandez (5x All Star, MVP, 2 World Series, Batting Title, 60.3 bWAR)
2) David Wright (7x All Star, 49.2 bWAR)
3) Carlos Delgado (2x All Star, ML POY, 44.4 bWAR)
4) Carlos Beltran (ROY, 9x All Star, Word Series, 70.1 bWAR)
5) Robin Ventura (2x All Star, 56.1 bWAR)
6) John Olerud (2x All Star, 2 World Series, Battling Title, 58.2 bWAR)
7) Darryl Strawberry (ROY, 8x All Star, 3 World Series, 42.2 bWAR)
8) George Foster (5x All Star, MVP, 2 World Series, 44.1 bWAR)
9) Jeff Kent (5x All Star, MVP, 55.4 bWAR)
10) Curtis Granderson (3x All Star, 47.2 bWAR)
11) David Cone (5x All Star, Cy Young, 5 World Series, Perfect Game, 62.3 bWAR)
12) Dwight Gooden (ROY, 4x All Star, 2 World Series, triple crown, 53 bWAR)
13) Jerry Koosman (2x All Star, World Series, 53.6 bWAR)
14) Johan Santana (4x All Star, 2x Cy Young, Triple Crown, 3x ERA Title, 51.7 bWAR)
15) Bartolo Colon (4x All Star, Cy Young, 46.2 bWAR)
16) Billy Wagner (7x All Star, Rolaids Reliever, 422 Saves, 187 ERA+)
17) John Franco (4x All Star, 2x Rolaids Reliever, 424 saves, 138 ERA+)

I personally think Hernandez, Cone and maybe Kent have strong cases for the Hall.
I think Beltran eventually gets in.

Rusty Staub - Although his best years were with the Expos.

Tug McGraw - Split evenly with Mets and Phillies

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