I'm Sick And Tired

wazoo · #1 02-21-2023, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72

Is that not, in and of itself, a generalization?

Exactly my point

Bobbycee · #2 02-21-2023, 01:55 PM

Nice tantrum. Find something new in your life. Get out side more. Stop watching the news.

clydepepper · #3 02-21-2023, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbycee

Nice tantrum. Find something new in your life. Get out side more. Stop watching the news.

+1

I stepped out on my back porch this afternoon and read a chapter in a book on Charles Bender. Beautiful weather...left Dogs...especially the loud one...inside.

Drank some ice-cold water and didn't touch my phone once.

Tabe · #4 02-21-2023, 04:55 PM

Anytime someone rues the state of the hobby and the greed of the companies, just remember that one of the hobby's most iconic cards (Goudey Lajoie) is only that way because Goudey was being dishonest with the public.

Casey2296 · #5 02-21-2023, 05:11 PM

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I love this hobby/forum, I haven't been around long compared to others here but I've met the most knowledgeable, generous, genuine people in this little corner of the hobby, willing to help network and build each others collections.

Yes, I'm exhausted/frustrated that the cards I want are increasing in price faster than I can save but I'm also content with what I have built so far and am able to still pick up cards I want in my collection.

I also won't deal with sketchy people in the hobby, AH's, sellers, etc. too many good people to surround myself with to even give those types my time.

But really, its the friendships that are the most meaningful in this hobby, all that other stuff is just silly noise.

Luke · #6 02-21-2023, 05:14 PM

Some legit gripes for sure but if you really can't see why other collectors would want a really beat up old baseball card, then maybe you aren't in the right place and would be better off leaving.

Rhotchkiss · #7 02-21-2023, 05:34 PM

I wish you happiness, good health, and good luck. ✌️

Hankphenom · #8 02-21-2023, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I wish you happiness, good health, and good luck. ✌️

+1. "Everything changes, everything passes, just do what you think you should do..."--Bob Dylan, To Ramona

G1911 · #9 02-21-2023, 01:58 PM

Technically, "generalizations are dangerous in all cases" is an absolute statement, not a generalization.

parkplace33 · #10 02-21-2023, 02:13 PM

James,

There are plenty of way to collect, outside of what you mentioned. You can still do it raw and on a budget.

But to your point, the hobby is tied up with everything you mentioned. I have accepted it. It is what it is.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 02-21-2023, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Technically, "generalizations are dangerous in all cases" is an absolute statement, not a generalization.

Generally speaking, I avoid generalizations. Is this actually logical or is it a Yogi-ism type statement?

ALR-bishop · #12 02-21-2023, 02:22 PM

Yes

ALBB · #13 02-21-2023, 02:32 PM

Yea !
Im sick and tired of it too !!

G1911 · #14 02-21-2023, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Generally speaking, I avoid generalizations. Is this actually logical or is it a Yogi-ism type statement?

To play the straight man in the joke here...

A statement that is a claim to fact is true or false. To be true, it must be true in all instances it declares. A generalization usually differs from an absolute statement in that the speaker knows it is not actually true and so removes the "all". "All police cars have sirens" is an absolute statement to fact (and a false one), "police cars have sirens" is its generalized form that removes the direct declarative, because it isn't always true and thus, technically, is false, but would be true in most solitary cases and thus it is implied to be "all" while leaving the speaker the wiggle room to not have to account for those that do not.

"I don't use generalizations" would be a claim to fact.

"I avoid generalizations" is a statement that essentially means nothing from an Aristotelian perspective, as a generalization. "Avoid" signifies an opinion that the speaker does not like them and prefers a choice, rather than a real claim to fact, and it's meaning directly leaves room to still use them sometimes. "I avoid generalizations" is a carefully phrased expression of a generalization that has shifted from a formulation that is a claim of fact to an opinion that can be neither right nor wrong.

As it is a generalization in its structure already, the "generally speaking" prefix serves no purpose beyond the comedic, and thus creates a yogi-ism, a line defined by its absurdity and not meant to be taken seriously.

You are all welcome for the most boring post of the day.

Peter_Spaeth · #15 02-21-2023, 03:07 PM

Excellent analysis.

What of course makes the Yogi isms so great is that although they make no sense logically they do make some sense. Take the immortal, nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.

G1911 · #16 02-21-2023, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Excellent analysis.

What of course makes the Yogi isms so great is that although they make no sense logically they do make some sense. Take the immortal, nobody goes there any more, it's too crowded.

My favorite nonsensical Yogiism that kind of makes sense somehow is the classic �if you come to a fork in the road, take it�. It�s a silly absurdity, or a pithy reminder that indecision is the worst of choices and choosing wrong is better than not to choose; instead of standing at the fork forever, just take a path.

Peter_Spaeth · #17 02-21-2023, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

My favorite nonsensical Yogiism that kind of makes sense somehow is the classic �if you come to a fork in the road, take it�. It�s a silly absurdity, or a pithy reminder that indecision is the worst of choices and choosing wrong is better than not to choose; instead of standing at the fork forever, just take a path.

That is my second favorite, also very brilliant especially in light of the Frost poem.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #18 02-21-2023, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

Technically, "generalizations are dangerous in all cases" is an absolute statement, not a generalization.

I practice moderation with a fervor...

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