Who is the greatest right handed hitter of all time?

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I'm not sure I understand the connection between greatest right handed hitter and World Series wins. Many people consider Ted Williams the greatest left handed hitter and he has no World Series wins. If they had been switched between the Yankees and Red Sox, it's not hard to imagine their individual numbers of World Series wins also being switched even if they had the exact same stats. In baseball, winning a World Series is more about the overall team than 1 player.

Isn't it obvious? Having better teammates, especially pitchers, makes you a better right-handed hitter.

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Rings is about the worst measure of an individual baseball player ever.

Is it….? Team sport, yes, but 1 player can swing the entire series.

Originally Posted by Tabe

Isn't it obvious? Having better teammates, especially pitchers, makes you a better right-handed hitter.

Actually it does…. Being surrounded by elites raises ones game. If it doesn’t, you’re out. When a team gels they all become better.

Saying Ted would have been amazing on the Yankees is overreaching. Ted on the Yankees is an unknown.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

Is it….? Team sport, yes, but 1 player can swing the entire series.

One player can't get them to that series in the first place though. Especially in the era of only two teams play in the post season.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

One player can't get them to that series in the first place though. Especially in the era of only two teams play in the post season.

Yeah, and rings have become an exponentially worse measure of a player's quality as the number of rounds in the playoffs have increased. Nobody's winning 9 championships in MLB anymore.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

Actually it does…. Being surrounded by elites raises ones game. If it doesn’t, you’re out. When a team gels they all become better.

You're really making the case that having better pitchers on your team makes you a better hitter?

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Tabe

You're really making the case that having better pitchers on your team makes you a better hitter?

Are you really making a case that championships aren’t a good measure of a players quality?

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

Are you really making a case that championships aren’t a good measure of a players quality?

If you look at the list of top 20 players with the most WS rings, 19 of them won all or most of their rings with the Yankees. Only Eddie Collins made the list without the help of being on the Yankees.

No Cobb, Williams, Mays, Aaron, Mathewson, Young, Koufax, Foxx, W Johnson, Clemente, Trout, Bench, Schmidt, Morgan, Seaver, Ryan, etc.

Over half of the top 20 championship ring holders are not even in the HOF. Johnny Murphy who?

Looks to me like you just had to be on the Yankees sometime from the 1930s to the 1950s and collect your rings.

And as far as the OP's question, I'd list, in order:

1. Aaron
2. Mays
3. Foxx
4. Hornsby

Since 'The Greatest' is not a counting stat, it depends on how you weigh certain things like average vs power, peak vs. longevity, runs produced vs on-base percentage, etc. With so many great players, there is no single right answer.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

If you look at the list of top 20 players with the most WS rings, 19 of them won all or most of their rings with the Yankees. Only Eddie Collins made the list without the help of being on the Yankees.

No Cobb, Williams, Mays, Aaron, Mathewson, Young, Koufax, Foxx, W Johnson, Clemente, Trout, Bench, Schmidt, Morgan, Seaver, Ryan, etc.

Over half of the top 20 championship ring holders are not even in the HOF. Johnny Murphy who?

Looks to me like you just had to be on the Yankees sometime from the 1930s to the 1950s and collect your rings.

And as far as the OP's question, I'd list, in order:

1. Aaron
2. Mays
3. Foxx
4. Hornsby

Since 'The Greatest' is not a counting stat, it depends on how you weigh certain things like average vs power, peak vs. longevity, runs produced vs on-base percentage, etc. With so many great players, there is no single right answer.

Thanks for posting the link that you did. As pointed out in the article that goes along with the top 20 list, "Ralph Houk, who only played 91 games in eight seasons, yet is the proud owner of six World Series rings."

[FrankWakefield]

I'd like to see a list that includes rings for coaching and managing... That list is for rings as a player.

Berra and Crosetti would move up the list, I think Frisch would get on the list.

WS rings, MVP awards, and the like, have nothing to do with being the greatest right handed hitter. But I'd still like to see such a list.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

Are you really making a case that championships aren’t a good measure of a players quality?

100% yes.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

Are you really making a case that championships aren’t a good measure of a players quality?

So your answer is no then.

Yes, I'm making the case that championships aren't a good measure of a player's quality. Marty Castillo and Tom Brookens have more championships than Ernie Banks and Ted Williams.

[Mark17]

Rogers Hornsby.