$117K SGC 8.5 DiMaggio WWG trimmed heavily, previously an SGC 6

[wolterse]

wow great investigative work there

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[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by wolterse

wow great investigative work there

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Agreed Great work and also great how you made that image work one over the other

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Agreed Great work and also great how you made that image work one over the other

I am not the OP from the blowout thread; my handle over there is mjohnatgt. However, the BODA (Blowout Detective Agency) guys have done a tremendous job outting fraud over the past 5 years. If you haven't seen that type of overlay before, you should go over to blowout and read about 50 threads.

Here are some of the top ones:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1298835
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289859
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297767

Wonder if the FBI is still doing any leg work? Most of their discovery has already been accomplished by volunteers.

[Casey2296]

Props to BODA, doing the Lords work for half a decade, keep it up guys.

[Tyruscobb]

This hobby’s fraud and greed never stops amazing me. I wonder how many high grade, rare cards are legitimate? I suspect the number is shockingly low. This is the reason I’m a low to collector-grade guy.

[Fred]

This is why TPGs should use a minimum size requirement for cards with RAZOR sharp corners.

If the card doesn't meet the minimum size requirement and it has RAZOR sharp corners, then have a QUALIFIER that indicates it doesn't meet the minimum size requirement but has been graded as if it were. That would put the thought in everyone's mind that it could be trimmed (which it probably is). Think about it.

When you look at the number of cards out there and find that a large number of high grade cards doesn't meet the minimum size requirement, then people may start asking why most cards with lower grades meet the size requirement but higher graded cards do not. I mean really? Are we this stupid?

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Fred

This is why TPGs should use a minimum size requirement for cards with RAZOR sharp corners.

If the card doesn't meet the minimum size requirement and it has RAZOR sharp corners, then have a QUALIFIER that indicates it doesn't meet the minimum size requirement but has been graded as if it were. That would put the thought in everyone's mind that it could be trimmed (which it probably is). Think about it.

When you look at the number of cards out there and find that a large number of high grade cards doesn't meet the minimum size requirement, then people may start asking why most cards with lower grades meet the size requirement but higher graded cards do not. I mean really? Are we this stupid?

When it comes to most humans on this planet, the answer to your very last question is a resounding YES!

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Fred

This is why TPGs should use a minimum size requirement for cards with RAZOR sharp corners.

If the card doesn't meet the minimum size requirement and it has RAZOR sharp corners, then have a QUALIFIER that indicates it doesn't meet the minimum size requirement but has been graded as if it were. That would put the thought in everyone's mind that it could be trimmed (which it probably is). Think about it.

When you look at the number of cards out there and find that a large number of high grade cards doesn't meet the minimum size requirement, then people may start asking why most cards with lower grades meet the size requirement but higher graded cards do not. I mean really? Are we this stupid?

They reject cards and send them back unslabbed with a label that says MINSZ or similar, I forget the exact phrase. They seem to ignore this suspiciously often to keep slabbing very small cards. Strange!

People are sadly this stupid. Strangely thin high grade cards continue to outsell by huge margins unaltered cards that are of normal size. What the slab says overcomes actual reality in the market. Reality is annoying, the card in the 9 slab lets you flex on the poor with the same card in a 6 slab. Being altered is irrelevant.

[doug.goodman]

At this point in the age of opinion sellers I actually enjoy seeing a trimmed card go for 6 figures.

Anybody who likes cards enough to pay THREE figures for a card should be able to tell the difference between trimmed and not trimmed, when it's to those degrees. Obviously it's harder to tell until they get the card in hand, but as soon as they do...

Nobody who buys a trimmed card has any excuse.

The person who bought the DiMaggio in 2021 knew exactly what he got moments after he received it.

Nice looking slab, though.

Doug "I wish I could get trimmed to an 8.5" Goodman

[conor912]

This is why TPGs should use a minimum size requirement for cards with RAZOR sharp corners. admit they have no idea how to perform the one service they are expected to.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by conor912

This is why TPGs should use a minimum size requirement for cards with RAZOR sharp corners. admit they have no idea how to perform the one service they are expected to.

You are assuming it wasn't done knowingly.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

This hobby’s fraud and greed never stops amazing me. I wonder how many high grade, rare cards are legitimate? I suspect the number is shockingly low. This is the reason I’m a low to collector-grade guy.

How many did you see in the 1980's? That ought to tell you.

You know I've called it a billion dollar fraud for many years now. It's way over a bil.