What to do - Ebay Authentication Process/Possible Reprint

MINES_MINT · #1 03-17-2023, 04:49 PM

Have you contacted ebay? Perhaps they would send you a shipping label so that your card can go through the Authentication process as promised.

Pat R · #2 03-17-2023, 04:56 PM

If your mailing address is a PO box it doesn't go through the authentication process.

Harliduck · #3 03-17-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

If your mailing address is a PO box it doesn't go through the authentication process.

Pat R is correct.

I called ebay and just found that out. I use a PO Box (tired of getting my mail stolen!!!)

I'm going to just send the card back and take my return. Funny, the ebay agent said they would have backed me if he didn't take the return...he said the onus would have been on him to prove it's authentic to negate a return. This new policy of Authentication isn't to protect the buyer, it protects Ebay...

Learn something new every day. My lesson...any big cards that need Authentication I send to an address...if I want to skip their Authentication for a graded card, ship to my PO...lol.

BobC · #4 03-17-2023, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Harliduck

Pat R is correct.

I called ebay and just found that out. I use a PO Box (tired of getting my mail stolen!!!)

I'm going to just send the card back and take my return. Funny, the ebay agent said they would have backed me if he didn't take the return...he said the onus would have been on him to prove it's authentic to negate a return. This new policy of Authentication isn't to protect the buyer, it protects Ebay...

Learn something new every day. My lesson...any big cards that need Authentication I send to an address...if I want to skip their Authentication for a graded card, ship to my PO...lol.

Isn't one of, if not the, main reason they don't use the authentication process if you have a P.O. box is because a signature is required when your item is delivered? Another way Ebay can protect themselves, more so than the buyer or seller.

brianp-beme · #5 03-17-2023, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BobC

Isn't one of, if not the, main reason they don't use the authentication process if you have a P.O. box is because a signature is required when your item is delivered? Another way Ebay can protect themselves, more so than the buyer or seller.

Perhaps that is Ebay's reasoning, but they could also pay the additional amount to require signature for the package, and then the purchaser just has to go to the counter at post office to sign for it.

Brian

sb1 · #6 03-17-2023, 06:33 PM

Doesn't cost any more or any less for "signature required" to a residence, business or PO Box with the USPS.

Popcorn · #7 03-17-2023, 07:34 PM

always used a P.O. Box until they started the AG

personally rather have my cards sitting at the post and not driving around in a truck and sitting in my mail box. Unfortunately sense Covid the local post still does not use signature and will leave it at my door step.

I finally decided it�s better to know what I bought is as described and canceled my P.O. Box. Just too many scams dealt with in the past. Sense AG I have had to open 0 return cases. It�s awesome.

nineunder71 · #8 03-18-2023, 06:10 AM

I don’t think so, I’ve never had to sign for a card from the authenticator. They just get put in my mailbox...

Did eBay give you (John) the opportunity to still submit it to the authenticator yourself, and have it shipped back to you? Sounds to me like you want the card, but want it authenticated.

Either way, Good Luck to the OP

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobC

Isn't one of, if not the, main reason they don't use the authentication process if you have a P.O. box is because a signature is required when your item is delivered? Another way Ebay can protect themselves, more so than the buyer or seller.

rand1com · #9 03-18-2023, 07:07 AM

I see no reason to believe the card is not authentic from the pics but safety would be to send it back since it cannot be verified.

jingram058 · #10 03-18-2023, 07:20 AM

So that's what it's come to in this hobby...everything not graded or otherwise authenticated is automatically under scrutiny for being a fake.

I for one do not care about that. In the end, if my cards are somehow deemed fake, so be it. And I have some truly expensive cards.

If, and that's a great big if, I bought an expensive card off of eBay or Amazon or whatever, and I loupe it and blacklight it, and I'm convinced it's fake, I'm not going to the seller I'm going straight to eBay and go through hoops to speak to a human and say and do whatever to get my money back. Whatever it takes.

BobC · #11 03-18-2023, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nineunder71

I don�t think so, I�ve never had to sign for a card from the authenticator. They just get put in my mailbox...

Did eBay give you (John) the opportunity to still submit it to the authenticator yourself, and have it shipped back to you? Sounds to me like you want the card, but want it authenticated.

Either way, Good Luck to the OP

Funny, I just got something delivered to me last week that went through authentication, and I had to sign for the mailman, or I would have to go to the post office to pick it up and sign for it there. Do they do this differently for different items/people or something else I've never heard of before? I was always under the impression it was one fixed set of rules supposedly covering everything (and everyone) the same.

Kaneen · #12 03-18-2023, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BobC

Funny, I just got something delivered to me last week that went through authentication, and I had to sign for the mailman, or I would have to go to the post office to pick it up and sign for it there. Do they do this differently for different items/people or something else I've never heard of before? I was always under the impression it was one fixed set of rules supposedly covering everything (and everyone) the same.

Bob, I don't believe your shipment was handled any differently than anyone else's by eBay. The variance in experiences is more likely due to inconsistencies in local USPS practices. During the pandemic, most shipping services (like USPS) suspended their policies of making mail carriers obtain signatures on "signature required" packages. This was to limit carriers' exposure to Covid risks and maintain social distancing. Carriers would either sign for the package themselves, or in most cases just drop it off at your door or mail receptacle without it being signed for. It is very likely that not all local post offices have returned to enforcing pre-pandemic practices concerning obtaining signatures. It is also likely that even if they are now supposed to do it, some individual carriers might not make the extra effort. Sounds like you have a quality carrier that plays it by the book.

brianp-beme · #13 03-17-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

If your mailing address is a PO box it doesn't go through the authentication process.

That is what I have heard as well. If you have a PO Box and want to make a similar type of purchase that you are not 100% confident about, I suggest you temporarily change your delivery address to your home address on Ebay so that it can go through their authentication process.

Brian

brianp-beme · #14 03-17-2023, 05:31 PM

I don't type fast enough.

Brian

sbfinley · #15 03-17-2023, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

If your mailing address is a PO box it doesn't go through the authentication process.

I use a P.O. Box and have received a half dozen cards from the authentication service.

Pat R · #16 03-18-2023, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sbfinley

I use a P.O. Box and have received a half dozen cards from the authentication service.

Well that's interesting you are the first person that I know of who has their ebay purchases shipped to a PO box who has had an item go through the authentication process.

When they first started the program I purchased a card that was supposed to go through the process and because of that it said there would be a delay in the shipping. I was surprised when I received the card in the mail three days later so I checked their terms and conditions and found out why. I have purchased 20+ cards that had the Guarantee and all of them were shipped directly to me.

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Tyruscobb · #17 03-18-2023, 08:19 AM

I think it�s authentic, but I�d need to personally see the card to guarantee it. I understand you wanting to return it. However, if you do, you risk the seller deciding to keep it or selling it to someone else. You risk losing the card.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #18 03-18-2023, 08:39 AM

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Tyruscobb · #19 03-18-2023, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

I think it�s authentic, but I�d need to personally see the card to guarantee it. I understand you wanting to return it. However, if you do, you risk the seller deciding to keep it or selling it to someone else. You risk losing the card.

If the card is fake, it�s a good one. I went to the original eBay listing and focused in the best I could. The card appears to have the correct printing dots. However, like I originally said, I�d have to handle the card to make sure.

sbfinley · #20 03-18-2023, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

Well that's interesting you are the first person that I know of who has their ebay purchases shipped to a PO box who has had an item go through the authentication process.

Assuming this is the authentication service we are talking about, yes I've received 5 or 6 to my PO Box.

Pat R · #21 03-19-2023, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sbfinley

Assuming this is the authentication service we are talking about, yes I've received 5 or 6 to my PO Box.

Yes that's the service Steve, and according to their own terms & conditions you're not eligible for the service.

bnorth · #22 03-20-2023, 08:40 AM

The authentication process seems to be all over the place. I listed a card for auction with the BIN option high enough for it to go through the service. Card actually sold for $150 but is still going to the authenticator. I am happy because I personally love the service.

gonefishin · #23 03-17-2023, 05:02 PM

Back in February I sold a raw Tom Brady card for $400. I was expecting it to ship to the Guarantee program, but didn't. I don't know why. Normally, the default address when you ship a card that meets the monetary limit it requires you to send the card to the Guarantee address. It didn't in my case with the Brady.

Maybe the process has changed. At some point the guarantee service is going to revert to "Pay for Guarantee" program. Maybe they are just starting. It sounds like the seller has been straight up with you so far.

I'm assuming that now you have the card you have done your due diligence for authenticity, i.e. check the transparency, check the size, check the print dots. If the print dots are a match, in MOST cases it is real.

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