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Old 03-20-2023, 05:54 AM
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Great team to bring up! IMO Belle and Manny should be in the hall. Omar probably ends up getting in, and Lofton was just another couple good years away from joining them.

Also, not to call you out but you left Sandy Alomar Jr. off that list (he was probably hurt most of the season though)... not a HOFer but it's crazy to me how people forget he was one of the best, if not the best, catchers from that era. Probably a lot of people at that time thought he would end up in Cooperstown as well.
Great point about Sandy, and I did think about putting on the list, but then decided not to after double-checking his career numbers. I was thinking that had I put him on the list, someone may have jumped in and called me out for having included him. I totally agree, he was a great catcher, but you know how many on this forum are with the dependence on modern statistics and measurements. They would just look at his numbers and immediately wonder what was so good about him, he looks average at best on paper. He had a 20 year career, with only a 13.7 WAR.

Actually, I should have also mentioned Brian Giles and put him on the list as well, since 1995 was his initial season playing in the big leagues with the Indians, though he only appeared in 6 games as a late season call up, I believe. I almost didn't list Carlos Baerga, along the same lines for not having listed Sandy Alomar Jr., as Baerga had a career WAR of only 19.6 over his 14 year ML seasons. But with Baerga's .291 career batting average, and his memorable time with Omar Vizquel as a premier double play combo, I felt I had to leave him on after all.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:20 PM
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If I missed a mention sorry but some of those early and mid 50s Yankees teams with Mantle, Berra, and Ford have to be up there; each time had a bunch of star level players in addition.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:24 PM
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I think there were several Giants teams with Mays, MicCovey, Cepeda, Marichal and Perry as well as Matty and Felipe Alou and Billy Pierce..
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I think there were several Giants teams with Mays, MicCovey, Cepeda, Marichal and Perry as well as Matty and Felipe Alou and Billy Pierce..
The 1965 rendition would add in Warren Spahn over Billy Pierce.

The 1964 club would have Pierce and no Spahn, but you get Duke Snider thrown in.

Spahn or Pierce + Snider is a tough pick.

The Giants probably have the most "great players for other teams who barely played for them" guys in baseball history.
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Old 03-24-2023, 01:58 AM
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And the 3rd New York team, the 1956 Brooklyn Dodgers:

C Roy Campanella HOF
1B Gil Hodges HOF
2B Jim Gilliam
SS Pee Wee Reese HOF
3B Jackie Robinson HOF
LF Dale Mitchell (career .312 hitter)
CF Duke Snider HOF
RF Carl Furillo

P Don Newcombe
P Sal Maglie
P Don Drysdale HOF
P Sandy Koufax HOF
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The early 1960s New York Mets had lots of great players (Gil Hodges, Warren Spahn, Yogi Berra, Duke Snider, etc.) all managed by Casey Stengel, with George Weiss as GM. Unfortunately, they were all over the hill!
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The 2014 Tigers had a rotation that consisted of Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander, David Price, Rick Porcello - all Cy Young winners, plus Robbie Ray. Has there been another team with 5 Cy Young winners on the same roster?
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