SGC Registry � Why isn�t there one?

Lucas00 · #1 03-21-2023, 01:06 PM

The Registry was confirmed Recently, I recommend watching the full Interview but if you want to hear about it alone skip to 52:30. Though he basically said it's probably not coming soon, and an app will be coming to tide us over.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mmWHKPohXvk?feature=share

parkplace33 · #2 03-21-2023, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00

The Registry was confirmed Recently, I recommend watching the full Interview but if you want to hear about it alone skip to 52:30. Though he basically said it's probably not coming soon, and an app will be coming to tide us over.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mmWHKPohXvk?feature=share

I have seen this video... still waiting on that app and if it scratches the itch of the registry.

gonefishin · #3 03-21-2023, 01:57 PM

An SGC registry would be cool.

I personally haven't entered anything into the PSA registry, but recently thought I would enter some graded packs. There wasn't a checklist for the packs I wanted to enter, so I tried to request a checklist. Evidently they are way behind entering new checklists for the registry as new requests have been suspended for quite some time while they catch up. I'm still waiting - anyone have any idea when they may start new checklists? PSA customer service recommend I use the "Collectors Showcase" to enter my items, but I don't desire to do that.

Any thoughts?

P.S. Not trying to hijack the original thread.

mrreality68 · #4 03-21-2023, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00

The Registry was confirmed Recently, I recommend watching the full Interview but if you want to hear about it alone skip to 52:30. Though he basically said it's probably not coming soon, and an app will be coming to tide us over.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mmWHKPohXvk?feature=share

interesting video and thanks

Vintagedeputy · #5 03-21-2023, 07:41 PM

The old registry was great. The message board was great. I think the registry shit the bed when they changed up the cert numbers.

I have been the squeakiest wheel on this. Won�t stop squeaking until they offer it again.

Lorewalker · #6 03-21-2023, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

The old registry was great. The message board was great. I think the registry shit the bed when they changed up the cert numbers.

I have been the squeakiest wheel on this. Won�t stop squeaking until they offer it again.

And it appeared the whole reason they changed the cert number process was to add more anonymity to submissions to prevent tracking of cards within a submission. At the same time they removed the G from SGC...no more guaranty.

Moves that to me seem to point to a company who is not looking out for their base.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 03-21-2023, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And it appeared the whole reason they changed the cert number process was to add more anonymity to submissions to prevent tracking of cards within a submission. At the same time they removed the G from SGC...no more guaranty.

Moves that to me seem to point to a company who is not looking out for their base.

In any other business, circling the wagons to protect bad actors and insulate the company from liability might draw some harsh consumer response. Not this effed up one.

G1911 · #8 03-21-2023, 09:23 PM

Because SGC management acts as if keeping PSA #1 in the industry is at the top of its priority list

Lorewalker · #9 03-21-2023, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In any other business, circling the wagons to protect bad actors and insulate the company from liability might draw some harsh consumer response. Not this effed up one.

The degree of denial, indifference or tolerance that collectors have is impressive but not in a good way. What elephant in the room, he exclaims, when there are 9 of them.

Peter_Spaeth · #10 03-21-2023, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

The degree of denial, indifference or tolerance that collectors have is impressive but not in a good way. What elephant in the room, he exclaims, when there are 9 of them.

Orlando, Sloan, Turner and Forman read the room very well -- the ostrich act during the scandal worked to perfection. Not even the elephant in the room is visible when your head is buried in the sand, now is it?

Bigdaddy · #11 03-21-2023, 08:06 PM

What if SGC offered a registry where you could enter cards from any of the big 3/4/5 TPGs? Certainly something that collectors would find useful and it would scratch an itch that the PSA registry doesn't.

Not sure how much revenue for SGC that would generate though. PSA has a good thing (for them) going with their registry which drives folks towards PSA-only slabs if you want to play/compete.

BobC · #12 03-21-2023, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

What if SGC offered a registry where you could enter cards from any of the big 3/4/5 TPGs? Certainly something that collectors would find useful and it would scratch an itch that the PSA registry doesn't.

Not sure how much revenue for SGC that would generate though. PSA has a good thing (for them) going with their registry which drives folks towards PSA-only slabs if you want to play/compete.

That would be great, but the main problem with doing that is all the TPGs do not agree and play by the same grading standards. And going forward, there would be a potential bias in TPGs maybe grading a little easier if such a registry really took hold of the hobby community. If one TPG graded a little easier than the others, they'd soon start getting more submissions than the other TPGs.

Also, what happens if one of the other TPGs then has to decertify a particular card/cert #, will they share info and let the SGC people handling this combined Registry now?

Aquarian Sports Cards · #13 03-22-2023, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

What if SGC offered a registry where you could enter cards from any of the big 3/4/5 TPGs? Certainly something that collectors would find useful and it would scratch an itch that the PSA registry doesn't.

Not sure how much revenue for SGC that would generate though. PSA has a good thing (for them) going with their registry which drives folks towards PSA-only slabs if you want to play/compete.

My brother and I have discussed doing an independent registry that would allow just that. Of course that would have to be in our copious free time. Since running an auction company is so easy we should be able to hop on that some time around never.

ClementeFanOh · #14 03-22-2023, 07:41 AM

Since we are all guessing, here's a couple for your consideration:

1) The process of collating all past grades is a logistical nightmare.
Far too much buck, not enough bang.

2) Perhaps SGC is simply sticking with it's specialty- honoring their
service promises over something which, in some cases at least, is
little more than an ego massage for certain collectors.

Trent King

theshowandme · #15 03-22-2023, 07:46 AM

SGC could hire a database & web user experience/interface (UX/UI) consulting group any pay them $1-1.5 million to get this done in under 2 years.

But they will not do that.

These companies rarely spend the money on the right tech.

Lorewalker · #16 03-22-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Since we are all guessing, here's a couple for your consideration:

1) The process of collating all past grades is a logistical nightmare.
Far too much buck, not enough bang.

2) Perhaps SGC is simply sticking with it's specialty- honoring their
service promises over something which, in some cases at least, is
little more than an ego massage for certain collectors.

Trent King

Meanwhile the registry is what has made PSA far and away the industry leader. Ask PSA if the buck was too much for the bang.

At this point I doubt SGC having a registry would help them with market share. I am not into registries.

bnorth · #17 03-22-2023, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

My brother and I have discussed doing an independent registry that would allow just that. Of course that would have to be in our copious free time. Since running an auction company is so easy we should be able to hop on that some time around never.

Make it a business venture. Only cards bought from one of your auctions can be added to your registry.

RCMcKenzie · #18 03-22-2023, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

Make it a business venture. Only cards bought from one of your auctions can be added to your registry.

...and placed into your vault.

Piratedogcardshows · #19 03-22-2023, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

The old registry was great. The message board was great. I think the registry shit the bed when they changed up the cert numbers.

I have been the squeakiest wheel on this. Won�t stop squeaking until they offer it again.

The old message board was a lot of fun I agree and miss it as well. I use to enjoy collecting and using their registry when I first discovered vintage. Good times.

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