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Old 04-05-2023, 11:30 AM
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Steve,

Interesting stuff. So on the yellow House, there clearly appears to be a progression in colors as they adjusted something showing more red ink or less of the green neck. What do you suspect happened to account for this progression and the green blotch on the neck?
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Old 04-05-2023, 11:36 AM
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Ted,

think I understand what you are talking about. I am going to have to re-scan the top edges and will re-post again.

Updated: I've added pics in order. The difference appears to be damage to the top border. The partial top border also has the same damage (pic #2), which then appears to be corrected in Pic #3. The red star/black star Campos does not have the same damage to the top border, suggesting perhaps the clean top border was printed first, the top border got damaged in two places sometime while fixing the red star/black star error but then neglected to fix the remainder of the top border. Not sure
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:16 AM
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Steve,

Interesting stuff. So on the yellow House, there clearly appears to be a progression in colors as they adjusted something showing more red ink or less of the green neck. What do you suspect happened to account for this progression and the green blotch on the neck?
I was only partly joking about glazed donut frosting.

I think the red plate was exposed with some sort of obstruction That blocked most of the area of the logo and up into the neck.
Since it's not completely gone, I suspect something like a handprint on the glass. Some of the chemicals used to develop the plates can do that, and if you're rushing and don't notice a handprint it would not get the proper printed areas exposed. Gum arabic is a pretty good suspect.
OR
Sloppy developing leading to that area not getting developed properly.

I should do some sketches or something to show how the image would be blocked off on the mask. That to me seems like the best explanation for he no red but proper colors on the neck version.
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:01 AM
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John Kucab. Card #358 has a variation but is unrecognized as far as I know.
Lower right area has what looks like scratches during the printing process?
This was brought to my attention in the 52 Topps thread.

Also just noticed a Yellow House Tiger that just came up for auction from an major AH.
Looks to be 100% free of any red on the tiger and does not have the greenish hue on the neck of House.
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Old 04-06-2023, 03:35 PM
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The two Kucabs are both easy to find. Always hate it when differences are found in the high numbers
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Old 04-06-2023, 06:35 PM
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The two Kucabs are both easy to find. Always hate it when differences are found in the high numbers
I remembered your post in the 52 Topps thread, (because of this thread) speaking about the missing "R" on the back of the Campanella card and I quickly checked the one John recently sold me but no luck...
That is one I most certainly won't be going after anytime soon.
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Old 04-07-2023, 06:47 AM
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I remembered your post in the 52 Topps thread, (because of this thread) speaking about the missing "R" on the back of the Campanella card and I quickly checked the one John recently sold me but no luck...
That is one I most certainly won't be going after anytime soon.
Thanks Irv. Although it is not supposed to be a rare variation, I have not found a good one yet. I added the original link in the first post.
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Old 04-07-2023, 10:56 AM
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Thanks Irv. Although it is not supposed to be a rare variation, I have not found a good one yet. I added the original link in the first post.
Just found 2 for a pic reference on eBay.
PM sent as well, Zach.
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