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Old 04-23-2023, 10:30 AM
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Might be a little early to declare that someone is taking a bath here. A lot of auctions for pieces like this seem to see prices double (or more) during extended bidding.

Naturally, now that I’ve proffered such a prognostication, no one will bid on it again between now and closing.
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Old 04-23-2023, 10:38 AM
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I think the card will get some more bids, but in relation to the $108k…. I am calling Splish Splash (but it def may beat the Goldin comp from October 2021)
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Old 04-23-2023, 11:21 AM
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Now a couple years removed from the covid peak in prices, the upcoming major vintage/pre-war auctions will give good indication of the state of our market - everything from the $5.k Mathewson type cards all the way to the '58 high grade Jim Brown to the PSA 9 Koufax rookie.

I am guessing we are on new "normal" ground without any driving forces outside of basic hobby supply/demand.

While many absolutely fantastic cards in REA, I notice a lack of mid to higher grade T206 HOF'ers. Kinda tells me people have tucked these away. There was a T206 W. Johnson hands chest that someone hit the BIN 7,800. on eBay recently - a new all time high for that card. And it was very avg/low for the grade.
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Old 04-23-2023, 11:39 AM
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With any commodity card I wonder why it is in an SGC holder. If it could get a comparable grade from PSA why wouldn't the owner switch it? This is always a red flag to me.
As for the Gehrig rookie, buying this card from a scan is crazy. I don't think you can tell from a scan if it is a 1925 or a 1926 and as we've all seen saying something on a cert doesn't always make it so.
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Old 04-23-2023, 12:25 PM
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With any commodity card I wonder why it is in an SGC holder. If it could get a comparable grade from PSA why wouldn't the owner switch it? This is always a red flag to me.
As for the Gehrig rookie, buying this card from a scan is crazy. I don't think you can tell from a scan if it is a 1925 or a 1926 and as we've all seen saying something on a cert doesn't always make it so.
Maybe I am new here but isn't the 1926 Gehrig Exhibit a different picture? I just went searching as it sounded like an interesting question you raised. Only found a portrait or batting stance image for the 26-29 Exhibits.
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Is it me but is that really an 8.5 with all those surface flaws?
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Old 04-23-2023, 01:51 PM
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Is it me but is that really an 8.5 with all those surface flaws?
....nice try , but I and thirteen other guys on here are bidding on it anyway. But planting seeds of doubt has worked , at least for me , in other situations.. now if you'll excuse me I'm going back to my Google search results for " Highest-paying blood banks within 100 miles of Pottstown , Pennsylvania."

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Old 04-23-2023, 05:39 PM
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Is it me but is that really an 8.5 with all those surface flaws?
That was my thought, but 58 footballs are littered with those defects, especially the black oval cards. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a truly clean 1958 black oval in hand. If it was a different card I doubt it would be given an honest 8.5 honest.
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Maybe I am new here but isn't the 1926 Gehrig Exhibit a different picture? I just went searching as it sounded like an interesting question you raised. Only found a portrait or batting stance image for the 26-29 Exhibits.
Here's a thread that discusses the difference. I remembered reading about that years ago. (When I should have bought one!) It really gets going in Orlando's post #42 https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=227798
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Here's a thread that discusses the difference. I remembered reading about that years ago. (When I should have bought one!) It really gets going in Orlando's post #42 https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=227798
Thanks. Interesting read. Sounds like this one might be the true 25 since it looks quite black and white without a blue tint that signifies the 26.
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With any commodity card I wonder why it is in an SGC holder. If it could get a comparable grade from PSA why wouldn't the owner switch it? This is always a red flag to me.
This. People who care about graded postwar cards of this level skew towards PSA.

My $0.02 on the Brown RC is that the rough edges left and right stand out enough to make me question whether it would cross over to a comparable PSA grade or maybe get knocked down 1/2 or even 1 grade.
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The Brown sold for $47k . TERRIBLE flip for the one who bought it during Covid. Also, the Koufax PSA 9 sold for $384k.
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From the “assets” I keep an eye on, this Jim Brown card seems pretty indicative of the market…

Pre-Covid price = X
Peak of Covid spike = 5-10X
Current = 2-3X
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:56 AM
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The Brown sold for $47k . TERRIBLE flip for the one who bought it during Covid. Also, the Koufax PSA 9 sold for $384k.
I have so many questions about these "purchases" over the last 3 years.
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They way I'm seeing cards bounce around from one auction to another, I'm impressed someone held this one for two years.
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